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We have now seen jesse bevans birth record,and it comfirms george bevans and elizabeth wilson as parents,so the pieces and now slotting together,many many thanks to all who helped us with finding this infomation,best wishes

Zoe & Rob x

Hi all,

Just wamted to update you

Finally after trawling through umpteen records we have found the marriage of George Bevans and the elusive Elizabeth Wilson - she was there all along and we missed her - bless her!

on Free BMD George's surname was recorded as 'Bebins'
As soon as you find George Bebins's name on the list Elizabeth matches his Dist/Vol/Page Nos..

Dist - West Ham
Vol - 4a
Page - 131

Lists her with him..we have also found birth and death records for both, that we believe are theirs but just need to do some more cross referencing to be 100 percent.

Many thanks for all your help

Zoe & Rob x

Thats crossed our minds jax,will keep digging,could be a couple of weeks before we receive paperwork back from GRO,will keep you all posted,many thanks,Zoe.

Maybe there was no marriage then? it happens. If there had been one someone would have posted it

jax

Thanks, i have read all posts on this thread and thank everyone for their input..
Have seen 1911 census and others with both George and Elizabeth entered in them..

but cant seem to find this...

Elizabeths maiden name

Have been on Free BMD and can't find their marriage on there either... which was why I posted the last message.

Thanks

Zoe

It has been mentioned by janey on the first page .

To find births. marriages or deaths use freebmd

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Most people that try to help on these boards do not use GR records anyway

jax

HIya all

Been searching for the maiden name of Elizabeth Bevans - married to George Bevans

We are doubtful about Wilson now - although we are still waiting for some records to come back...

Please could you just assist us again in trying to find this info out..
as we cannot access 'birth records' at present on 'GR'...

many thanks once again

Zoe n Rob xx

Hiya all

Sorry for the delay - have just been so busy today.

Right well,we are still waiting to see the birth certificate - for Jesse Bevans, but wont be able too see it until Sunday, when our nephew visits - so I can't confirm anything about Elizabeth Wilson,and to see if a mistake has been made ???.

Should I be looking for george married to a different Elizabeth?? - until I can verify either way i would rather leave Wilson Elizabeth out of it, and follow the records

Am Waiting for James Robert Bevans birth cert to come back
Many thanks will keep you posted

Zo n Rob

Well cheese, Zoe/Rob ... I'm chopped liver!

I've got you Florence's marriage and kids, Mary Ann's marriage, George's *birth* and marriage, and before that James's birth ... and all the info I sent you by PM ....... for which you thanked me at length. ;)


You're madly searching for all these new names in trees here at GR, right? ;)


Name: George Bevans
Death Registration Month/Year: 1927
Age at death (estimated): 65 = dob c1862
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 190

more children for william

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Bevan Louisa E Bond W.Ham 4a 338

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Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Bevans Henry A Bond W.Ham 4a 251

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Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
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Bevans David T Bond W.Ham 4a 246

just want to say ..

jax - i think you are spot on with William Frederick Bevans wife rosina and 3 children ...it adds up for us as Robs grandad James Robert Bevans' brother Bill

many thanks once again.

Zo n Rob

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BEVANS, Hannah E
Address: 57 Portland Road Victoria Docks E


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DUTTON, Alfred John Head Married M 24 1887 Fireman On Ship Essex West Ham VIEW
DUTTON, Florence Mary Anne Wife Married F 20 1891 London Bow VIEW
BEVANS, Hannah E Sister In Law Married F 25 1886 London Bow VIEW
BEVENS, John Brother Married
4 years M 22 1889 Trimmer On Ship Essex West Ham VIEW

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
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BEVANS John W. Ham 4a 18
Hawkins Hannah W. Ham 4a 18

Not sure about this one

I just love people who go by their middle names. ;)

So that's Florence in 1911. And the only likely-looking birth is:

Births Dec 1887
Bevan Florence Annie J Chepstow 11a 8


Did they do like Ernest, and emigrate to Australia for a few years, just in time for the 1891 census??

??
1911 census - household transcription
Person: RAYMENT, Florence
Address: 28 Scott Street Victoria Docks E


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RAYMENT, John Head Married
42 years M 61 1850 Bed Ridden Essex West Ham VIEW
RAYMENT, Caroline Wife Married
42 years F 60 1851 No Occupation Essex West Ham VIEW
RAYMENT, John Son Single M 40 1871 Dock Casual Essex West Ham VIEW
>>>>>>>>>RAYMENT, James Son Married
4 years M 23 1888 Dock Casual Essex West Ham VIEW
>>>>>>>>>RAYMENT, Florence Daughter Married
4 years F 24 1887 No Occupation Essex West Ham VIEW
RAYMENT, Nellie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Match Maker Essex West Ham VIEW
RAYMENT, Daisy Daughter Single F 17 1894 Match Maker Essex West Ham County London VIEW

Fair play to you all...you are amazing - how quick you find these things out.

We believe our florrie was born1888
yes i think you found the same list with all the 9 names on it

this wilson thing ...i believe it is from the birth certificate of jessie bevans (1900ish)...my nephew has this and i cant get hold of him, I have left him messages to contact me but i really dont think he is going to come back to me with the info tonight..will confirm as soon as i hear from him sorry...


Thanks all

Zoe n Rob x

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BEVANS, William F
Address: 36 Montesquieu St Canning Town E


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BEVANS, William F Husband Married M 26 1885 C Labour Casual Essex Canning Town VIEW
BEVANS, Rosina M Wife Married
8 years F 26 1885 Essex Canning Town VIEW
BEVANS, William G Son M 5 1906 Essex Canning Town VIEW
BEVANS, Rosina L Daughter F 3 1908 Essex Canning Town VIEW
BEVANS, Albert J Son M 1 1910 Essex Canning Town VIEW
RODERMOND, George Boarder Married M 28 1883 Costemonger Essex Canning Town VIEW
RODERMOND, Beatrice Wife Married F 27 1884 Bag Work Essex Canning Town VIEW

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Bevans William Frederick W. Ham 4a 6
Bond Rosina Maud W. Ham 4a 6

Webb! I was just looking at an earlier census for some Bev* with Webbs in the household! Let me find it again!


1891

Name: Florence Bevan
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Bevan
Mother's name: Sophia Bevan
Where born: Chatham

Civil Parish: Chatham
Town: Chatham
County/Island: Kent

George Bevan 57 - farm labourer
Sophia Bevan 47
Sarah Bevan 17
Florence Bevan 6
John Webb 69 - army pensioner
Henry James 50
Ann James 49
Arthur James 10
Elizabeth James 7

Name: George Bevan
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sophia Bevan
Where born: Wortham, Kent, England

Name: John Webb
Age: 69
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Lodger
Where born: St Luke, Warwickshire, England


probably a total coincidence ...

Can't find a marriage for that George & Sophia.


1901

Sophia Bevan 58 [someone has corrected to Beavin]
Florence Jane Bevan 16
Samuel Hassell 82
Civil Parish: Chatham

Marriages Mar 1868
BEAVIN George Malling 2a 528
Coomber Sophia Sarah Malling 2a 528

Rule 'em out!

Marriages Mar 1902
? Bevans George Robert W. Ham 4a 7
Heester John Jacob W. Ham 4a 7
Mancktelow Mary Anne W. Ham 4a 7
Smith Mary Ellen W. Ham 4a 7

Births Jun 1883
Bevins George Robert W. Ham 4a 65


Yay -- evidence of children born with the Bev* surname in the early 1880s -- since that birth matches with the 1902 marriage, which matches with the 1911 info that George Jr married c1902.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BEVENS, George
Address: 7 Hallsville Road Victoria Docks E


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JOLLEY, Mary Head Single F 18 1893 Greengrosey Dealer Canning Town Essex VIEW
JOLLEY, William Brother Single M 17 1894 Assisting In The Business Canning Town E Essex VIEW
JOLLEY, Jack Brother Single M 15 1896 Assisting In The Business Canning Town E Essex VIEW
JOLLEY, Joe Brother Single M 13 1898 School Canning Town E Essex VIEW
JOLLEY, Jane Sister Single F 11 1900 School Canning Town E Essex VIEW
WEBB, Charlie Cousin Single M 9 1902 School Plastow Essex VIEW
WEBB, Charlie Uncle Married M 38 1873 Assisting In The Business Suffolk Anden Suffolk VIEW
BEVENS, George Servant Widower M 28 1883 Assisting In The Business Canning Town E Essex VIEW

Deaths Mar 1909 (>99%)
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BEVANS Mary Ann 25 W. Ham 4a 91


Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Bevans George Robert W. Ham 4a 7
Mancktelow Mary Anne W. Ham 4a 7

Marriages Dec 1907
> BEVANS Mary Ann W. Ham 4a 8
FARMER Thomas W. Ham 4a 8
HORSWILL Ada Amelia W. Ham 4a 8
PEMBLE Sydney Percival R W. Ham 4a 8

Can't find any births or deaths after 1911, can't spot them in 1911.