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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	17 Jan 2011 02:09
	A little bit interesting -- 1891 England: Name: John Grimes Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Grimes Where born: Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Nuneaton Town: Nuneaton County/Island: Warwickshire John Grimes 53 Eliza Grimes 52 John Grimes 22 (dob c1869) Eliza Grimes 17 Ann Grimes 15 Ada Grimes 12 Thomas Wm Grimes 10 I'm not seeing them in 1871 or 1881, and I don't see a likely marriage to account for the children. I'd wonder whether it was a blended household -- except for the eldest two children being John and Eliza. Maybe Eliza's first husband was John? ;) But these are those two children: Births Dec 1868 GRIMES John Nuneaton 6d 379 Births Sep 1873 Grimes Eliza Nuneaton 6d 425
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Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 45 Send Message	Ann	Report	17 Jan 2011 17:21
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 45 Send Message	Hello and thank you all Sorry for the delay. Thank you Mel75 for info on other children,I only knew about Ernest. I did think that John's parents were Edward and Ann - BUT with the new info I have found -1871 census Samuel and Elizabeth Grimes who have a grandson Frederick Grimes born in Australia living with them, This is Nuneaton Warwickshire. I then checked back to the 1851 census and found the same family with among others a son John age 18.It looks like when Emma returned to England Ernest was the only child that lived with her. Emma married my Gt Gt Grandfather John Ellcock in1875 Aston Warwickshire. I hope John Grimes had died before she married John Ellcock- otherwise I have two bigamists in the family Glenys
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Glenys	Report	17 Jan 2011 17:34
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Sorry all senior moment sent my last post on my daughter's area Glenys
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	17 Jan 2011 19:24
	Well done -- I hadn't done the work to look for Frederick, myself. Bigamists in the 19th century ... no worse than divorcé(e)s in this! (And that really isn't bad at all -- especially when we consider how many good grounds a spouse might have had for ending the relationship.) Think of it this way: at least they tried to be respectable! ;) I might think that since a child was living with the paternal grandparents, she was more likely widowed than estranged, but you never know, he might have remained in Australia and they were sympathetic (or maybe unsympathetic) to her.
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Member Since: February 2008 Posts: 958 Send Message	MeJoy75	Report	17 Jan 2011 21:44
	???? Found the following death in New South Wales, could this be him Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District 7409/1903 Grimes John Samuel Elizabeth Parramatta
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Glenys	Report	18 Jan 2011 18:53
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	This may well be him. I am sure those are correct parents -more checking to do! It seems that Emma came back with three children and married my Gt. Gt Grandfather nine years later. A mystery that may never be solved!!!!! Thank you Mel75 for info from records in your part of the world. I certainly have a great deal of information I can now put together. Glenys
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Glenys	Report	18 Jan 2011 19:09
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Just checked on igi for John Grimes! 20th February 1833 Nuneaton Warwickshire - parents Samuel and Elizabeth. Looks more than likely that the 1903 death is him. Thanks again
Member Since: February 2008 Posts: 958 Send Message	MeJoy75	Report	18 Jan 2011 20:39
	Your very welcome. If you ever want to get the death certificate, go to www.joymurrin.com you can get transcriptions a lot cheaper (only applies to New South Wales).
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Glenys	Report	19 Jan 2011 11:47
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 50 Send Message	Thank you for info. about death certificate. I shall keep trying to solve the puzzle! Glenys

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