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Margaret

Margaret Report 19 Feb 2011 20:09

Shirley
Thank you for all your help, sorry it's taken so long to thank you but I have been ill.

It seems that the Hinett and Forest are the same family, it seems Henry changed his name when he no longer wished to be in the Navy.

Margaret

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 18:38

well this Lilian Alice Forest was born in Hampshire as per the birth ref and both the 1901 and 1911 census, As you see the father came from Kidderminster and the family are there by 1911. seems too coincidental ???

It may be the the Hinett's took her in.

Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jan 2011 18:25

Shirley you have been busy, thank you for taking the trouble

I noticed a Emily Forest born 1888, she could be where the Aunty Em and Forest connection came from.

Another thought about Lilian, she could have been born elsewhere.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 17:18

Cant see a death for either Emily or Henry Forest

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 16:53

family seem to have stayed in Kidderminster
Name: Albert Ernest Forest
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1984
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 29
Page: 506

Name: William Charles Forest
Birth Date: Aug 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: 1981
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Hereford & Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 0361

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 16:45

1901 census so they are Forest.
FOREST, Emily F Head Married F 34 1867
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
FOREST, Emily F Daughter F 13 1888
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
FOREST, Henry M Son M 10 1891
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
FOREST, Ivy M Daughter F 5 1896
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
FOREST, Lilian A Daughter F 1 1900
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
WILTSHIRE, Jane Mother Widow F 62 1839 Needle Worker
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
AGAR, Sarah Visitor Single F 19 1882 Domestic Servant
Cliffe
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1007 Folio:
103 Page:
27

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsmouth and Mid Southsea Enumeration District:
41 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Bartholomew

Civil Parish:
Portsmouth Municipal Borough:
Address:
105, Boulton Road, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

husband not at home

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 16:40

now this may be interesting !!!!!!

FOREST, Lilian Alice
Registration District: Portsea Island
County: Hampshire
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Volume No: 2B
Page No: 532


Now living in Kidderminster by 1911

1911 census
FAREST, Henry Head Married
24 years M 51 1860 Labourer General Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW >>>>>>>>
FAREST, Emily Wife F 44 1867 Portsmouth Hants VIEW
FAREST, Ivy Daughter Single F 15 1896 Creeler Weavers Portsmouth Hants VIEW
FAREST, Lilian Daughter F 11 1900 School Portsmouth Hants VIEW
FAREST, Albert Son M 6 1905 School Portsmouth Hants VIEW
FAREST, William Son M 4 1907 Portsmouth Hants VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17552 Reference:
RG14PN17552 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED9 SN56

Registration District:
Kidderminster Sub District:
Kidderminster Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Kidderminster Borough

Address:
61 Bromsgrove St Kidderminster County:


could be Forest on the actual census


another child born in 1912
Name: Edna J Forest
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Wiltshire
District: Kidderminster
County: Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 411



see the 1901 census where Emily's mum surname Wiltshire is living with them

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 16:28

the Jones family on the 1901 with Lilian
JONES, Thomas Head Married M 43 1858 Farm Bailiff
Ombersley
Worcestershire VIEW
JONES, Mary J Wife Married F 40 1861
Dudley
Staffordshire VIEW
JONES, Fredrick Son Single M 15 1886 General Labourer On Farm
Kidderminster
Worcestershire VIEW
JONES, Ernest Son Single M 12 1889 General Labourer On Farm
Kidderminster
Worcestershire VIEW
JONES, Nellie Daughter F 9 1892
Kidderminster
Worcestershire VIEW
JONES, Aruther Son M 7 1894
Kidderminster
Worcestershire VIEW
JONES, Agnes Daughter F 6 1895
Kidderminster
Worcestershire VIEW
JONES, Lilian A Daughter F 1 1900
Wolverley
Worcestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2764 Folio:
15 Page:
6

Registration District:
Kidderminster Sub District:
Wolverley Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John the Baptist

Civil Parish:
Wolverley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Bodenham, Wolverley County:
Worcestershire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 16:25

It would seem the Lilian Alice Jones , the birth I posted, was still with her parents in 1911 so possibly not connected to Alice who married William Henry .
As the William & Alice seem to be the right family for her maybe they "adopted" her after 1911 having only the one child still living by then and Lilian wasnt living with them in 1911.. Maybe the names suggested of Forest or Forester would be worth looking for.

Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jan 2011 12:50

Sorry i meant the census but i can see that they are now, you will have to excuse me, i am a bit slow at this

Flick

Flick Report 17 Jan 2011 12:46

'both' being who?

Not sure what you mean....................

Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jan 2011 12:45

Flick
are they both 1911 census

Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jan 2011 12:42

Flick thank you, it takes me so long to send a message and try to get back on the page.
Lilian was married from 26 Hall st, Aunty Roma can remember visiting relatives in Hall St one being an Aunty Em

Flick

Flick Report 17 Jan 2011 12:36

Person: JONES, Lilian Alice
Address: Hobro Wolverley

Cost:
You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


JONES, Thomas Head Married M 53 1858 Farm Bailif Ombersley Worcester VIEW
JONES, Mary Jane Wife Married
32 years F 49 1862 Dudley Worcester VIEW
JONES, Ernest Son Single M 22 1889 County Council Labourer Wor Grimply Kidderminster VIEW
>>>>>>>>JONES, Lilian Alice Daughter F 10 1901 Wor Bodnum Wolverley VIEW
JONES, Wilfred Son M 7 1904 Wor Hobro Wolverley VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17539 Reference:
RG14PN17539 RG78PN1072 RD374 SD2 ED2 SN22

Registration District:
Kidderminster Sub District:
Wolverley Enumeration District:
2 Parish:


Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jan 2011 12:34


Thanks Shirley

I think it might be worth sending for that or looking on 1901 to see if Alice is with a baby daughter.

Flick

Flick Report 17 Jan 2011 12:31

Person: HINETT, Alice
Address: 4 Hall Street Kidderminster

Cost:
You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.



HINETT, William Head Married M 29 1882 Beames In Carpet Factory Worcestershire Kidderminster VIEW
HINETT, Alice Wife Married
7 years F 20 1891 Shropshire Clee Hilli VIEW *********** Image of age is 29
HINETT, Edward Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17544 Reference:
RG14PN17544 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED1 SN9

Registration District:
Kidderminster Sub District:
Kidderminster Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Kidderminster Borough


Two children born during marriage......one has died......................

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 12:27

maybe
Marriages Sep 1903

HINETT William Henry Kidderminster 6c 334

JONES Alice Mary Kidderminster 6c 334
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births
Births Jun 1900

JONES Lilian Alice Kidderminster 6c 224


so the possiblity is lilian was illigimate but took her mums married name

Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jan 2011 12:15


Thank you Shirley,that if why i posted on here, as i doubted that the birth i had was correct, now i need to find the birth of my Lilian, which i cannot find anywhere.
Maybe she was born with another name and became Hinett later, hence Aunty Roma not being sure of Lilian's maiden name.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 12:12

doesnt help much !!
Deaths Dec 1938

HARRIS Lilian A 38 Kidderminster 6c 90

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2011 12:02

the 1901 census posted is for the lilian that died. ie parents William & Ellen that you have the cert for . and show as no children still living on the 1911 census same address