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Can't find it myself now!!

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no julia gant on here???

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Beaumont Mary Wandsworth 1d 1161
Long Joseph Wandsworth 1d 1161
Pointon Alice Matilda Wandsworth 1d 1161
Standen William Henry Wandsworth 1d 1161

Just looked up how to find details of his Dad's will,good idea somehow don't think Harry will be in it though!!

Have no deaths for those 2 men around that period.Checked also to see if she remarried using those names but nothing.Gant is such an unusual name i am finding it hard to believe the marriage in 1891 is wrong.Right name ,right place ,just the wrong man!!

Tee hee,think he was a cheeky one.
Sept 1891 q for the marriage ref 1d 1161 Lewisham.
Barbara any idea how i could get to see the will for Frederick please?

I think that Harry was working up to his correct age rather gradually!

Lorraine, I don't see that 1891 marriage on Freebmd - I am probably doing something silly!

Have you got the will for the father of Harry? You could see if there is anything interesting in there.

Name: Frederick Cook Atkinson
Probate Date: 11 Dec 1896
Death Date: 30 Nov 1896
Death Place: Norfolk, England
Registry: Norwich

Think something else is wrong..On the 1891 census Harry is 31 and Julia is 17.
The 1901 census posted here shows his birthday as being roughly 1873 and therefore only 4 years difference in age.The truth is they were roughly13 years different in age.This man is just economical methinks!!

Hi folks back again thankyou for waiting.
I wonder if they did know one another in Suffolk/Norfolk,certainly the families may have.
That is Harry's death in 1949,i know Julia died also in Farnborough the year before.
Re the birth certs,i don't have any but think i will order one to see if her maiden name is on there,a very good point thankyou.
Re the professor of music...Harry is a bit of a character.He actually taught music at the local primary school in Farnborough Kent ,taking piano lessons and played the church organ.I can find no trace of Harry's professor ship.His Father was born in Norwich,was a fantastic musician and indeed a professor of music.Qualifying at the very best place from an extremely poor background.I am thinking Harry had a lot to live up to and decided he would have better standing if he juat called himself that.
Will look for the possible deaths of the 2 men mentioned in the 1891 marriage records.
Thanks one and all.

If Julia had been married previously would the birth certificates for her children not give her name as Julia Atkinson formerly ??? nee Gant?

Could this be him?
ATKINSON. Harry Edgar. died: 1949/05/26
www.farnborough-kent-parish.org.uk/Churchyard%20Records%20V127.pdf

Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Atkinson Harry Edgar Bradford, Yk. 9b 158

Hi all and thanks for your help.That is the childrens births..
Catford and Lewisham are next to one another and i am sure that they met in Lewisham.Moving away to Kent when he was cut off from his family.
Yes i have checked the biography of Harry's Father.A poor boy made really good in terms of standing and wealth.How the mighty have fallen .Ha ha
Re school run ,must fly back soon and thanks all

Yes, in Lewisham with parents 1891, and stated as single.
Jan

Sorry p.c crashed!!
I thought Harry was in Lewisham in 1891 ,or oh no wasn't he.?
Does that census show him as single please?
I have looked for previous marriages.Harry Atkinson is harder to track,there are many.iI have not been able to track another marriage for Julia other thanSept 1891 in Lewisham..wrong man/men although she would just have been old enough i guess.
The family story goes that Harry had an affair with a servant at his Father's house and was kicked out and disowned from the family.The family had moved from Bradford to Lewisham at that stage.(Harry's Dad was rather highup in the Church and promoted to Lewisham,huge swanky house)etc
I believe Julia went to Lewisham to stay with her brother James after her parents death at the age of about 16.Perhaps she was the servant and they never married?Will see if i can find the deaths of either of the men in the 1891 marriage maybe she re married under either one of those names?
Have to do school run now,will be back and thanks for your help.Mch appreciated

Have you tried to find a biography or where Harry worked - he was after all a Professor of Music so must have been employed in one of the universities or similar?

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Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Atkinson Mary Gant Bromley 2a 1080

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Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Atkinson Herbert G Gant Bromley 2a 897

I lied, Harry had moved by 1891 I see! They must have met in Kent looking at childrens' birthplaces.

1891 England Census

Name: Hary Edgar Atkinson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's name: Frederick C Atkinson
Mother's name: Rose Lucy Atkinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London

Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Lewisham

Frederick C Atkinson 49
Rose Lucy Atkinson 58
Hary Edgar Atkinson 29
Maud Atkinson 28
Blanche Ethel Atkinson 24
Ellen Higgins 29

1901

Name: Florence R Atkinson
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Harry E Atkinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Catford, London, England

Civil Parish: Orpington
Ecclesiastical parish: Orpington All Saints
Town: Orpington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Orpington
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members: Name Age
Harry E Atkinson 31
Julia Atkinson 27
Florence R Atkinson 5
Fredk K Atkinson 4
Blanche K Atkinson 2
Harry E Atkinson 3 Months