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Sandy

Sandy Report 19 Mar 2011 21:59

What a lovely story and what a nice man to take the time and effort. It's also nice that it ended up with Sarah, who obviously appreciated it.

My Watkins's also had a family Bible that belonged to my father's grandparents, who had brought him up. Sadly they died when my father was away fighting in WW2 and my father never found out what happened to the Bible. These Watkins's lived in Wales. So if there is another 'Steve' out there and they find a Bible with the names of Alfred and Ann Rosetta in it would mean so much to my sister and I, even just to look at it.

Kind regards
Sandy

Barry

Barry Report 13 Mar 2011 16:55

There is a marriage of Herbert Pickwell Watkins to a Wininfred Dickinson in 1928 in Middlebrough which points to Herbert being the son of William b1873
There are 2 Watkins/Dickinson births in 1933 &1936 and one can follow them thru to marriages in the 50's
They are too recent to report them here - If you want the info ,contact me by PM

Christine2

Christine2 Report 13 Mar 2011 16:26

Looking at 1911 I would guess that Ada married William Henry Rowley and these were their children -

Births Dec 1908
Rowley William Henry Middlesbro' 9d 564a

Births Dec 1910
ROWLEY Elsie Middlesbro 9d 596

Possibly followed by these -

Births Dec 1912
Rowley James E Watkins Middlesbro 9d 1110

Births Jun 1915
Rowley Annie Watkins Middlesbro 9d 1087

Births Sep 1918
Rowley John A Watkins Middlesbro 9d 974

Births Sep 1925
Rowley Ada I Watkins Middlesbro' 9d 984

Barry

Barry Report 13 Mar 2011 13:55

Hi Steve
In the "Teesvalleyindexes" you will find marriages in Middlesbrough which may be the children of Moses/Mark and Sarah
Ada 1906 to William H Rowley or 1913 to Isaac P Johnston
Sarah E 1905 to John Nichols
William 1897 to Laura Pickwell
Moses 1897 to Ellen Mordue
The Middlesbrough operates a confirmation service for those people who wish to buy or are just making enquiries
If you click onto "middlesbrough"on the page where these records occur an auto enquiry form appears
There is no charge for this and one usually gets a response within a day

Christine2

Christine2 Report 13 Mar 2011 10:36

Oh that's great news Sarah and thank you so much for coming on to tell us. Well done Steve.

Chris

Lynn

Lynn Report 13 Mar 2011 10:09

What a lovely result, well done Steve, i think we would all like a Steve to find something like this for us:)

Lynn

Dea

Dea Report 13 Mar 2011 08:50

Oh - I just love a 'happy ending' !!

Well done to all of you and to Steve for wanting to re-unite this lovely momento with it's rightful family.

I do wish someone could find something like this for me.............

Best wishes,

Dea x

Sarah

Sarah Report 13 Mar 2011 07:36

Hi all,

Thanks for your help in assisting Steve with the Family Bible task!

They are my ancestors detailed in the bible and Steve and I met up and we are now in possession of the same!

Its a lovely piece of family history to have and a lovely success story!

Thanks to Steve for making the effort to find me and return the bible, I will email you and let you know how we get on in our ancestry search!

Sarah.

Christine2

Christine2 Report 24 Jan 2011 21:28

Oh silly me - getting my Moses deaths mixed up.

Yes Catherine, they are the same family - that's why I said SNAP to you haha:))

Sorry Catherine - I've just realised that I had called you Caroline.

Catherine

Catherine Report 24 Jan 2011 20:59

Christine, your 1901 Moses is the same as my 1911. The only difference is that in 1901 his wife is noted as Ellen and 1911 as Helena, (not unusual that names change slightly from census to census). Daughter Gladys however, remains the same.

The 1924 death would be that of Moses (the elder).

This looks like another daughter for Moses and Ellen:-
Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Watkins Gertrude Mordue Middlesbro 9d 984

Catherine

Catherine Report 24 Jan 2011 20:52

more info from 1901:-
Mark Watkins:- Shopkeeper
Ann Watkins:- Hawker Stall Holder
Ada Watkins:- Bakeress Bread maker
Sarah E. Watkins:- Hawker Stall Keeper
Address:- 16 West Street

Christine2

Christine2 Report 24 Jan 2011 20:42

I think Gladys may have married a Harker and had a daughter Gladys in 1925.

Searching on here there is a lady named Sarah who seems to have both the Gladys listed - Gladys Watkins1901 Middlesborough and Gladys Harker 1924 Cleveland. I think she must have certs because the second Gladys is registered in Jan-March 1925.
It may be worth contacting her Steve to check?

Christine2

Christine2 Report 24 Jan 2011 20:36

Iv'e been following a different Moses junior and think I've found someone with his daughter on GR. The one I followed though seems to have died -
in Middlesborough

Name: Moses Watkins
Death Registration Month/Year: 1924
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 634

I thought this was him in 1901 -

Name: Moses Watkins
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Watkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda
Town: Middlesbro
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members: Name Age
Moses Watkins 26
Ellen Watkins 20
Gladys Watkins 3 Months
Elizabeth Mordue 9
Alice Mordue 18
Gertie Winter 14

and his marriage -


Marriages Sep 1897
Ella Ada Middlesbro' 9d 940
***** Mordue Ellen Middlesbro' 9d 940
Robinson Richard Middlesbro' 9d 940
******Watkins Moses Middlesbrough 9d 940

SNAP - Catherine

Steven

Steven Report 24 Jan 2011 20:33

Appreciate everyones help in this matter hope to trace someone I can return this book to.

Steve

Catherine

Catherine Report 24 Jan 2011 20:30

Son Moses in 1911
WATKINS, Moses Head Married 13 years M 36 1875 General Dealer Walsall Staffordshire VIEW
WATKINS, Helena Wife Married F 30 1881 Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
WATKINS, Gladys Daughter F 10 1901 School Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
WATKINS, Annie Daughter F 8 1903 School Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
WATKINS, Nelly Daughter F 3 1908 School Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
PAGET, Annie Servant Single F 16 1895 Domestic Servant Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
WINTER, Gertrude Servant Single F 23 1888 Domestic Servant Middlesbro Yorks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29269 Reference:
RG14PN29269 RG78PN1696 RD535 SD3 ED6 SN39

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough West Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
158 Stockton St Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

.....gives a few more names to search in Search Trees.

tempest

tempest Report 24 Jan 2011 20:14

possibly his wife and daughter in 1911 census

Address: 16 West Street Middlesbrough

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WATKINS, Sarah Head Married 35 years F 65 1846 General Dealer Staffordshire Walsall
MCKY, Annie Daughter Married 2 years F 32 1879 General Dealer Staffordshire Walsall
MCKY, Earnest Son In Law Married M 32 1879 Moulders Labouror Stockton Durham
FLORRY, George Boarder Single M 66 1845 Porter Suffolk
HAMPTON, Elizabeth Servant Single F 34 1877 Domestic Middlebrough
LAUGHLIN, Mary Single F 16 1895 Domestic Middlebrough

Catherine

Catherine Report 24 Jan 2011 20:13

Name: Moses Watkins
Death Registration Month/Year: 1924
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 634

could be they stayed in the area.

Son Moses:-
Name: Moses Watkins
Death Registration Month/Year: 1925
Age at death (estimated): 50
Registration district: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 167
............Hartlepool is just near M'bro!

Christine2

Christine2 Report 24 Jan 2011 20:00

It looks as though he had decided to become Mark by 1901 -

Name: Mark Watkins
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Watkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members: Name Age
Mark Watkins 55
Sarah Watkins 51
Ann Watkins 24
Ada Watkins 22
Sarah E Watkins 15
Margaret Hampton 14
George Davis 61
John Stewart 54


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jan 2011 19:59

Steve, the family were still in the Middlesbrough area in the 1911 census.

Try the Middlesbrough Evening Gazette -http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/

tempest

tempest Report 24 Jan 2011 19:57

no matches on public trees on ancestry either