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Family of Andrew Walder & Ivy & Heather Walder

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Mo

Mo Report 29 Jan 2011 17:05

Parents George Walder and Annie McKinnon Ramsay lived in Warlingham, Surrey. They had 2 boys Eddie b.1925 and Andrew b.1928. Eddie had a wife called Ivy and a daughter Heather. Any information re the whereabouts of the family would be appreciated.
Maureen, Edinburgh, Scotland.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jan 2011 17:22

could this be Andew?
Name: Andrew Ernest Walder
Birth Date: 7 Feb 1928
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 2001
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Newham
Inferred County: London
Register number: C49
District and Subdistrict: 2571C
Entry number: 53

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jan 2011 17:26

Not finding any marriage or births on the GRO .where did they come from ??

Mo

Mo Report 31 Jan 2011 11:47

Thank you for your information. Is there a way for me to check this is the correct person?
Regards Maureen

Mo

Mo Report 31 Jan 2011 11:50

Re Ivy and Heather. When Eddie died circa 1945 they may have moved to Sheffield (where Ivy was from) or Huntingdon. Ivy possibly re-married.
I would appreciate your help. Thankyou.
Maureen

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 18:49

Did a free search on Scotlands peope and it looks like both boys were born in Scotland .

You PM stated the parents were married in Edinburgh c1925

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 18:56

Right found the marriage of Edward
Name: Ivy Fenton
Spouse Surname: Walder
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1944
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1190
Find Spouse: Edward R Walder


Name: Ivy Fenton
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hallam
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 763

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 18:58

copying over your PM as dont think the info is too private
will delete though if you want

Andrew's parents were:
George Ernest Walder b.1902 possibly Warlingham, Surrey.
Annie McKinnon Ramsay b.1905 in Pathhead, Midlothian, Scotland. Died 1956 in Warlingham Surrey.
Married 1925 in Edinburgh.
I think the children (2) were born in Warlingham, Surrey.
George & Annie were caretakers of the Warlingham Primary School and lived in the school house.
My mother stayed there circa 1938 and went to school there for a short time.
The other child Eddie (Edward) died in Gibralter during the war circa 1945

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 19:02

Heather was born in Sheffield 1946 .Will PM her birth

Edward doesnt show on the CWGC site as a WW2 casualty.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 19:09

This is the only 1902 birth
Name: George Ernest Walder
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 325


his death
Name: George Ernest Walder
Birth Date: 8 Sep 1902
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974 Mar qtr
Registration district: Surrey South Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 893

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 19:14

The only way to check the death or Andrew is to buy the cert, You can cross check the dob against the birth cert but you cant view that online for 1928 on Scotlands People site ,you will have to order through the site cost £10

The death is the only one coming up for the name and year of birth

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 19:25

possible marriage .again the only one showing
Name: Andrew E Walder
Spouse Surname: Hole
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1949
Registration district: Taunton
Registration county (inferred): Somerset
Volume Number: 7c
Page Number: 493
Find Spouse: Phyllis L Hole


Name: Phyllis L Hole
Mother's Maiden Surname: Patterson
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1929
Registration district: Wellington Som
Registration County: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly. Dorset/Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 335

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Jan 2011 19:34

Two possible children for Andrew an Phyllis and back in the Surrey area!
Will PM the info

Mo

Mo Report 31 Jan 2011 20:21

Thankyou so much. I think you have definitely found the family. I didn't realise the boys were born in Scotland. I plan to go to Register House tomorrow and will look for them.

I am amazed at the information you have found.
Once again, thank you so much. I look foward to hearing any more info you can find.

Kind regards
Maureen

Mo

Mo Report 24 Jan 2018 23:38

I'm not sure whether I thanked you for all your help. You were correct with Andrew. My sincere apologies for the x number of years delay thanking you.
Life events intervened..Many thanks.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jan 2018 07:45

Hi Maureen

That's ok ,glad the records found turned out to be correct ones

:-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2018 11:28

This may prove of interest

1939

Walder Household (4 People)
School House Westhall Road , Caterham and Warlingham U.D., Surrey, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
George E Walder 08 Sep 1902 Male School Porter Married 242 1
Annie M K Walder 16 Jun 1905 Female School Porter Married 242 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Andrew E Walder 07 Jul 1928 Male At School Single 242 4


Andrew's birth month is incorrectly transcribed - I have sent through a correction

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2018 11:33

Looks like Heather had a sister born in 1950 - record on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2018 11:36

???????

Walder Edward R 1925 1964 1964 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2018 11:45

Name: Edward R Walder
Year: 1950
Residence Place: Eastern, England
Place of Abode: 60 GRESHAM AVENUE, WARLINGHAM
Reference Number: CC802/61/4

At the same address are Ivy Walder and George E Walder

In 1952, Edward and Ivy were still together, at No 12, Cranmer Close

So he certainly wasn't a WW2 casualty