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I think the William Rhys Powell person I mentioned would not be right, here is his marriage

Births Sep 1878
POWELL William Rhys Brecknock 11b 105

Marriages Sep 1903
POWELL William Rhys Brecknock 11b 113
to Sarah Ann Frost or Catherine Louisa Doyle
I think Doyle since there are several Powell births with mother Doyle in Brecknock.

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fathers death certificate says leslie lloyd powell-hill bod 14-1-1913 died on 27-7-1994.

................... yes I know, I posted the record from the GRO index.

As I said I was not able to find a death record or birth record for William Rhys Powell Hill and I think he was probably born William Rys Powell.

so again if you could say an approximate year when he died that could help find the death record.



also would like there marrage certificate

............. I gave you the information for getting the marriage certificate

Marriages Dec 1908
EVANS Evan Bethuel Neath 11a 1572
HILL William Rhys P Neath 11a 1572 <<
JONES Mabel Annie Neath 11a 1572
LLEWELLYN Rachel Hannah Neath 11a 1572

we know from the 1911 census that he married Mabel Annie Jones and had daughter Ivy Josephine Jones. You can order the marriage certificate with the information I gave you from the GRO, order it in his name only

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ ............... order certificates online

that certificate will tell you the name of his father if he gave it when he married although it might not be correct, sometimes people gave their stepfather's name and so on. And it will tell you his age, so with that information it would help find his birth record and maybe find him in a census with his parents.

fathers death certificate says leslie lloyd powell-hill bod 14-1-1913 died on 27-7-1994.he married olive godwin from pyle mid glamorgan. on 9-10-1937 his fathers name was willian rhys powell hill they came from port talbot so trying to find grand parents

Name: Ivy J Hill
Spouse Surname: Poulton
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1937
Registration district: Coventry
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1508

Name: Ivy Josephine Poulton
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1993
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Register number: A43A
District and Subdistrict: 0631A
Entry number: 130
to Ernest J Poulton

????

there are several Poulton births with mother Hill in Coventry in the 1930s and 1940s

Name: Ernest James Poulton
Birth Date: 1 Sep 1907
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 1906

the more names and dates and places you have, the more you can search for in family trees at this website, Search Trees button

I think this could be William's birth

Births Sep 1878
POWELL William Rhys Brecknock 11b 105

so the question would be why and how and when he took on the surname Hill, possibly his mother was Powell and she married Mr Hill.

Births Sep 1909
Hill Ivy Josephine Neath 11a 1030

could this be Leslie

Births Mar 1913
Hill Leslie Jones Newport M. 11a 617

1911 census

HILL WILLIAM RHYS 1877 34 Neath Glamorganshire
HILL MABEL ANNIE 1887 24
HILL FLORENCE ETHEL 1887 24 - sister
HILL IVY JOSEPHINE 1910 1

this is from a free search at http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

so William married Mabel Annie Jones.

Can you please give an idea of when William Rhys Powell-Hill died as I can't find a death to match under any variation of that name, or a birth.

If his death record could be found it would give his age when he died which would help for searching for his birth.

The best thing to do is order his 1908 marriage certificate because it will tell you who he married and what his age and his father's name were and this is important for finding more informatio about him.

Your dad's death record gives his date of birth

Name: Leslie Lloyd Powell-Hill (notice the spelling of Leslie)
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1913
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1994
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Mid Powys
Inferred County: Powys
Register number: 7C
District and Subdistrict: 8672
Entry number: 92

but I can't find a birth record to match as Hill or Powell-Hill.

A good place to start is at freebmd http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

because this one is a little tricky with a double barrelled name i did the search

Marriages Dec 1908
EVANS Evan Bethuel Neath 11a 1572
HILL William Rhys P Neath 11a 1572 <<
JONES Mabel Annie Neath 11a 1572
LLEWELLYN Rachel Hannah Neath 11a 1572

he married one of JONES or LLEWELLYN

you haven't given any dates, your father's birthdate is important to know.

hi i am trying to find my grandmother or great grand parents.my father was lesley lloyd powell-hill who was the son of william rhys powell hill.they came from port talbot.my grand father came to live in cwmbran with my father and mother and died here.i know that my father had a sister called margret but this is all i know. the family lived in port talbot for may years so i am hoping someone out there can help me as i am completely stuck