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Well done,Ozi!! (With Ann's help.of course!)

I'm pretty satisfied with that match.

Maureen

to show which Mary in that 1876 marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LONGRIDGE George KENNEDY Mary Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/66/80

and it is still the irish kennedy side which makes sense.

I could only find one record and that gave butler, mary.
it was from roots org I think and was the only result so I looked to see if I could see the family.

1881: Mary Langridge George abt 1856 L'pool, Lancashire, England Wife Liverpool, Lancashire
1891: Mary Landridge George abt 1855 Liverpool Wife Liverpool, Lancashire


As George snr & Mary have a daughter, Sarah, and a son, Michael, this looks like a possible candidate.
1861 England Census
Name: Mary Kenedy
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Michael Kenedy
Mother's name: Sarah Kenedy
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Vauxhall
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Mary Court, 46 Chisenhale St

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Howard Street
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Kenedy 32 - Dock Labourer; Ireland
Sarah Kenedy 30 - Ireland
Mary Kenedy 6
Christopher Kenedy 4
Michael Kenedy 2
Children all born Liverpool.



1871 England Census
Name: Mary Kennedy
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Michael Kennedy
Mother's name: Sarah Kennedy
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen the Martyr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: No 5 House, No 7 Court, Mason St

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Household schedule number: 130
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Kennedy 56 - Scavenger; Ireland
Sarah Kennedy 40 - Ireland
Mary Kennedy 17
Elizth Kennedy 8
Ann Jane Kennedy 1 Year, 6 Months
Michael Corbett 21 - boarder; scavenger; Ireland

Maureen, that's exactly what I was pointing out.

It's very unlikely that George married in Sevenoaks when his bride was from Liverpool, he lived in Liverpool, and his children were born in Liverpool.

As Ruth does not have George J's birth cert his mother is purely guesswork.

This is how Ruth explains Mary Butler. "I found this George with his family and from looking at record searches against d.o.b and where born only came up with one possible mothers maiden name Butler where is when I found al the other results from detailed searches".

However, as I explained above, George snr may be from Sevenoaks area, but his wife, Mary, is from Liverpool, and usually you look for a marriage in the bride's area.

Ozi

Hi Ruth,
How did you find out that George James's mother's maiden name was Butler again? You did sort of explain,but I got confused.

I think Ozi was pointing out that:
Marriages Sep 1876
Kennedy Mary Liverpool 8b 235
Langridge George Liverpool 8b 235
TAYLOR Mary Liverpool 8b 235
WILSON James Garrick Liverpool 8b 235

could also be a possible marriage for George snr. Unless you know for certain that he did marry in Sevenoaks...

I think I just confused myself!!! grin

Maureen

I don't follow what you mean by that Ozi?
George married Mary Butler, not Kennedy.

However on searching for the Annie and John Crankshaw marriage it gives a possible as Annie kennedy.

Now I'm confused! :-D

??? But which Mary?
Marriages Sep 1876
Kennedy Mary Liverpool 8b 235
Langridge George Liverpool 8b 235
TAYLOR Mary Liverpool 8b 235
WILSON James Garrick Liverpool 8b 235

Births Sep 1878
LONGRIDGE George James Liverpool 8b 120

oh you stars!
Thats really interesting, going to have a really good look at it all now.
Love it when a jigsaw piece slots in!

Just back to my theory about that being the new wife-to-be in 1901:
1891 census transcription details for: 21, Winnifred Street, Tottington Lower End, Ramsbottom

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3128 Folio: 5 Page: 3


Reg. District: Bury Sub District: Holcombe
Parish: Tottington Lower End Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: Holcombe City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, Winnifred Street, Tottington Lower End, Ramsbottom
County: Lancashire
CRANKSHAW, John W Head Married M 40 1851 Labourer
Bury Lancashire
CRANKSHAW, Annice Wife Married F 27 1864 Cotton Carder
Summerseat Lancashire
CRANKSHAW, Harrington Son Single M 18 1873 Cotton Spinner
Elton Lancashire
CRANKSHAW, John Son Single M 10 1881
Summerseat Lancashire
>>>>>CRANKSHAW, George Son Single M 2 1889
Shuttleworth Lancashire .This looks like the"extra" George in 1901!


Maureen

And this certainly fits.

1881 England Census
Name: George J. Langridge
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Langridge
Mother's name: Mary Langridge
Gender: Male
Where born: L'pool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Kitchen Street

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Household Members:
Name Age
George Langridge 27
Mary Langridge 25
George J. Langridge 2
Sarah A. Langridge

Notice the sub-district.

So this is the known fact.


1901 England Census
Name: George Langridge
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rose Langridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Household Members:
Name Age
George Langridge 22
Rose Langridge 22
John Langridge 11Weeks



Marriages Mar 1900
Dagnall Rose Liverpool 8b 46
Langridge George James Liverpool 8b 46

Hi Ruth,
1881 Census is on this website;
Kent Online Parish Clerk ** - Hever Parish - Records Access ...
Home of the Kent Online Parish Clerks providing free family history, genealogy information ... Hever, is a village and a parish in Sevenoaks district, Kent. ...
The match is showing George (1854) Sevenoaks living at 7 Kitchen Street, Liverpool.

ahhh a possible breakthrough.
the address you mention in the 1911 cencus is used by living family members at a much later date.

sorry I mean the son George.borin in Birth 1878 in Liverpool in the above post

hi Ozibird

The facts I know are that George Langridge married Rose Ann Dagnall and that his father was also called George.

I knew he lived in Liverpool all his life and lived at 1 Bruce Street, Liverpool, with his children.

I found this George with his family and from looking at record searches against d.o.b and where born only came up with one possible mothers maiden name Butler where is when I found al the other results from detailed searches

The 1901 confused me too!

Just wondering if he's already hooked up with his wife-to-be:

Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
Langridge Mary 43 Liverpool 8b 49

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
CRANKSHAW Annie Liverpool 8b 121
LANGRIDGE George Liverpool 8b 121

1911 census transcription details for: 6 in 4 Mt View Rathbone St L'pool

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN22195 RG78PN1313 RD453 SD3 ED21 SN233


Reg. District: Liverpool Sub District: Abercromby
Parish: Liverpool Enum. District: 21
Address: 6 in 4 Mt View Rathbone St L'pool
County: Lancashire

LANGRIDGE, George Head Married M 52 (I think the image says 59) 1859 Dock Labourer Kent
LANGRIDGE, Amy Wife Married
6 years F 48 1863 Lancs Liverpool
LANGRIDGE, Mary Annie Stepdaughter Single F 18 1893 Lancs Liverpool


No idea if I'm on the right track.
Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and buy the certs!
Maureen

I guess you're looking at these two?

Births Jun 1854
LANGRIDGE George Sevenoaks 2a 355
LANGRIDGE William George Sevenoaks 2a 366

Following on:
Marriages Sep 1878
Butler Mary Sevenoaks 2a 874
LANGRIDGE George Sevenoaks 2a 874 (Your man. I'm assuming you know his wife's name from a birth cert.)