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I am in touch with the other tree - he's actually a cousin I didnt know I had but like me Harold Carter isnt his relative either so he didn't go any further with him, unlike me doing for my (half) aunt.

I think you can do that ........ easy to order on line

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

'Order certificates online' link

Hi Jan
Never thought of that either - can you tell I'm quite new to all of this!!
Thanks

have you searched trees here at this website ??

there are 4 people with the name Harold Carter born 1893 ... you and 3 others

two of them are born Cheltenham, yours and the other are born Worcester

oh rats, the one born Cheltenham was registered in first quarter 1894 so that one isn't just an inaccurate entry for yours

you are in touch with the other person who has yours I assume ?

Hi chrissiex
Thanks for that. This may seem a really daft question - do I just go to Bristol Registry Office and get a copy of the Death Certificate?
Michelle

I'm not saying this is your man, but just an example here. My great-grandfather worked as a carriage lamp maker from the age of 12. However, when he emigrated to Canada he put his occupation as farmer. Not sure why, maybe that was a more desirable occupation for an immigrant??
Jan

his was the only Harold S Carter birth registered in 1892 or 1893

this birth is possible by age and the location is not wildly out of the range of possibility ?

Name: Harold S Carter
Death Registration Month/Year: 1956
Age at death (estimated): 63
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 259

it was in the first quarter of 1956

his birth was registered in the first quarter of 1893

if he was born in early 1893 and had already had his birthday when he died he would have been 63 at death in 1956

that is the best match I see, it could be worth getting the certificate to investigate


I would offer your aunt my family as cousins but my Carters from the middle 1800s were all from somewhere else, lol



edit ...... I just realised your aunt was born in Bristol


about brummijan's post ..... yes I think 'intended' occupation might have been farmer and that would have been why he was accepted for immigration possibly

Hi Lynne & chrissiex
Firstly, thanks for all your searching - dont think Harold was a Farmer or Engineer (but cant be totally sure) he was listed as a 'Grocers Assistant' on the 1911 Census and was enlisted in the Army from 1915 - and discharged medically 29/12/1919 then must have gone home to my Grandma (Harold wasn't my Grandad, he was her first husband) and my Aunt Joyce was born in April 1921. She doesnt remember him at all and says he left when she was very small. Not sure where I go from here.
Thanks Michelle

thank you Lynne I knew someone would come through !


for the second one ... the other two Carters are on distant pages to not likely travelling together ?

No likely Isaac Carter in the 1901 census has a brother Harold

and we know our Harold had no siblings ...

for both the 'destination' given was almost surely just a first landing point

does occupation engineer or farmer match at all I wonder ?

Hi, Michelle.
These are the two that chrissiex posted earlier -

passenger transcript details
Name: Harold CARTER
Date of departure: 1 July 1927
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada
Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada
Date of Birth: 1894 (calculated from age)
Age: 33
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Engineer
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 19

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
John CARTER Page 4 of 19 View transcript
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

MONTCLARE
145964
Capt Webster
Canadian Pacific
Montreal, Canada
20776
9723
518



Name: Harold CARTER
Date of departure: 5 October 1927
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA
Date of Birth: 1893 (calculated from age)
Age: 34
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 23

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Isaac CARTER Page 20 of 23 View transcript
James CARTER Page 17 of 23 View transcript
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

CARMANIA
F G Brown
Cunard
Boston, USA
564

Hi Some advice please
Where do I look for more details on passengers lists?
I have two possible emigrations but need to confirm if they are actually my Harold Carter.
Thanks Michelle

Nudge

Thanks for all your help, I will pursue the emigration route - not really thought about it before that but its got to be a possiblility
Thanks again - Michelle

it is always possible he emigrated

I searched here, you can too for basic results

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

for example there are

CARTER Harold 1893 M 1927 Southampton USA New York
CARTER Harold 1894 M 1927 Liverpool Canada Montreal

maybe someone who pays to see the complete records will have a look at them and see whether anything looks like (or not like) your Harold

you can add

emigrated?

to your subject line maybe so it is clear what to check


for reference this would be his birth

Births Mar 1893
Carter Harold Stanley Kidderminster 6c 264

A Nudge

Hi Harold Stanley Carter was my Grandma's first husband. My mum was born in 1926 to a different father. As far as we know she never married again...............not even to my mums father (my grandad)
Just dont know where he went after 1921 Thanks

Hi. he was my grandma's first husband. My mum was born in 1926 to a different father. As far as we know she never married again......not even to my mum's dad (my grandad)

My aunt Joyce Carter was born in 1921. A little after that he left never to be seen again. Have looked for his death but I can't find any reference. Thanks for all help so far.

do you have any idea when (and where) he was last known to be alive ?

ah

I had been thinking he was your grandmother's second husband (since he is not your grandfather)

but he was very young when married .... he was her first husband? she remarried? if so ... when?

no .....

Name: Lucy Owen Watkins
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Worcester
County: Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 292

Name: Lucy Owen Carter
Birth Date: 7 Feb 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 26

I am very confused! She was your grandmother, Harold was not your grandfather? Ah maybe your parent was born before their marriage, sorry ....

His pension record is on Ancestry and he appears to have come through the war unscathed. It names his wife as Lucy Owen Carter and his children as Muriel born 1911 and Harold born 1912. he seems to have served until 1920