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Re: Stumped again

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Susan Elizabeth

Susan Elizabeth Report 9 Feb 2011 10:20

Help please any info on Clara Elizabeth Cope (1853) Coton Clanford. Stafford. Need to find her parents and early info before her marrage to Joseph Dean in Dec 1880...Josiah Dean (c 1822) my G.G.Grandfather any early info plus who he married...New to this finding it really interesting...but don't where to go with these...
Regards Sue

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:29

Easiest solution would be her marriage cert.........father's name (if known ) would be on it

Here she is in 1861, which doesn't provide the answers you seek

Name: Clara Cope
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Grandchild
Gender: Female
Where born: Coton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Seighford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Yardley 36
Ellen Yardley 37
Mary Yardley 2
Sarah Cope 74 Grandmother,b. Stone
Clara Cope 5


Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:31

However.............

Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cope Ellen Stafford 6b 17 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
COTTON Mary Ann Stafford 6b 17
Parkes James Stafford 6b 17
Yardley James Stafford 6b 17 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Seems that Clara was illegitimate, so you'll only be able to research her maternal line


 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 9 Feb 2011 10:31


CLARA COPE
Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
25 DEC 1853 Saint Mary, Stafford, Stafford, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: CHARLES COPE
Family
Mother: SARAH

Ignore this, too early

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:36

1851 for Clara's mother

Name: Ellen Cope
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Sister
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Coton Clanford, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Seighford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
William Cope 32
Sarah Cope 33
Sarah Cope 65
Ellen Cope 29
Isaac Ansell 17

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:38

1841 for Grandmother +

Name: Sarah Cope
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Seighford
Hundred: South Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cope 50
Sarah Cope 55
William Cope 20

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:43

1881 for Joseph's info

Name: Joseph Dean
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Clara E. Dean
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton In Moors

Civil Parish: Seighford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Coton Clanford
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dean 35
Clara E. Dean 25
______________________________________________________

1861

Name: Joseph Dean
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph Dean
Mother's name: Jane Dean
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Endon, Longsdon and Stanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leek
Sub-registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dean 38
Jane Dean 36
Joseph Dean 15
Sarah Ann Dean 13
Josiah Dean 11
Richard Dean 9
Francis Willm Dean 4
John Sant Dean 1
Henery Berresford 19

To find Jane's maiden name, look for the marriage on freebmd..............more fun to find it yourself

All the family born NORTON, so you know which reg'n district the marriage would be in.........

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:52

1841

Name: Joseph Dean
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Norton On The Moors
Hundred: North Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leek
Sub-registration district: Norton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Dean 50
Nanncy Dean 50
Sarah Dean 25
Richard Dean 20
Josiah Dean 20
Joseph Dean 15
Elizh Dean 15
Mary Dean 10
Ann Hanley 15
Enoch Procter 15

All born in County

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 10:57

1851 for Joseph's parents etc

Name: Josiah Dean
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Nancy Dean
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Woodhead, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Norton in The Moors
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leek
Sub-registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Dean 65
Nancy Dean 61 born Peover, Cheshire
Sarah Dean 30
Josiah Dean 28
Mary Dean 19
James Davenport 39
Abraham Gibson 19
James Baskefield 15
William Johnson 15
Hannah Johnson 19


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Susan Elizabeth

Susan Elizabeth Report 9 Feb 2011 11:54

Thanks for all your help, will have awander through the records, only started doing this, this weekso it's like knitting fog at the moment, but enjoying it.

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2011 12:23

As you are new to FH research, you may find it helpful to note the following free sites.


For parish records..............

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp (also has 1881 census)

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

For civil bmd info 1837 to approx 1940.......................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Check them out - play around till you are familiar with them...........

Susan Elizabeth

Susan Elizabeth Report 10 Feb 2011 16:09

thanks Flick very kind of you.
Regards Sue

Flick

Flick Report 13 Feb 2011 22:04

NNNNNNN

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Jun 2015 12:44

Does anyone know who Josiah Dean's (born 1786 & died 1874) parents were? I cannot find this info any where......please help.

Thanks Becky

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 8 Jun 2015 12:51

Where have you looked?

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Jun 2015 13:07

I've looked at baptism and marriage records around the area of Burslem, Endon, Norton in the Moors, Leek and then in Staffordshire as a whole. I've spent hours looking. I've gone over existing info that I have to make sure I'm on the right track which I seem to be but come to a stop when looking for Josiah Dean's parents.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 8 Jun 2015 13:29

Sorry, Rebecca, I should have been more precise. I meant which websites...........and/or the County Records Office.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Jun 2015 13:37

Oops sorry I have looked on ancestry, find my past and genes reunited, not sure where else to look.

malyon

malyon Report 8 Jun 2015 14:18

could this be the brother of josiah dean 1786 seeing that a josiah and francis is in the 1841 census children of joseph

Francis Dean
England Births and Christenings
Name: Francis Dean
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 08 Jun 1783
Christening Place: Uttoxeter, Stafford, England
Father's Name: Josiah Dean
Mother's Name: Sarah

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Jun 2015 14:39

Do you mean Josiah Dean 1786?