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Hi Jane, Ellie and Maura - just seen this thread. I am William John's great grandaughter and am still trying to track the elusive previous marriages William is believed to have had. I have come accross a census in 1901 at
43 Moyola St, Antrim. It shows William John Rafferty with a wife Mary Jane Okane. Can anyone shed any light? is this The William John of this thread?

PS - Jane, I will email and catch up. x

Thank you so much, my only problem now is the ages stated on the census forms. Where can I look up to see if there are anymore births as my dad said there were other children(although he also said his grandfather was daniel when in fact he was John) Also on the 1911 census Mary rafferty states to have had 4 children and 4 alive. I have counted these 4 without Margaret. Are these things ever reconciled.

Jane...Have located Margaret's Baptism... 14 Feb 1875...at St Mary's Clayton St.Ncle.
Parents..Joannis Rafferty
Marie Hennethy

Have looked at the 1901 Census and it says Margaret is Niece..."to the head of the Household"..which is Catherine Hennety not John Kafferty....

Jane...i did see that one for Margaret Morrison and wondered if she'd been married twice....that one did connect to Fred S.plenty Rafferty's around Ncle.but like you i cannot find a Margaret to fit even expanding the date of Birth...
What census have you that states Niece..?

Yes this is another mystery. Margaret Rafferty married Peter Morrison in Feb 1901. In a civl marriage states his age as 22 and hers as 21.Child Christina born in March same year. On the 1901 census Margaret and Christina are living with Catherine Hennety at 11 cooke st(cromac,antrim) and she is now 19,then in 1907 she marries skilleterOct 8 1907,newcastle on tyne and I think the age of them both is 26(not very clear),then on 1911 census Margaret and Magdalen(daughter) skilleter are visiting Catherine Hennety at 27 little may st belfast and the age stated is 25. I have been trying to find Margarets birth as it states on the census she was born in Newcastle on tyne but cant tie in the dates. I thought it would tell me how she was related to John Rafferty. On both her marriages to peter robinson and frederick skilleter it says her father is john rafferty,carver on the 1901 marriage and carver and gilder (journeyman) on the 1907 certificate,But it couldnt be my great grandfather as on the census its says niece. Perhaps someone not so close can see the connection. Jane

Jane...The Margaret Skilleter (1911) visiting Catherina Hennety was nee Rafferty b Ncle on Tyne...
Daughter ...Magdalen Regina birth Reg. Heaton. Preston. Lancaster 1908.
Havent found a marriage for Margaret anywhere so far....only 1 Skilleter marriage Reg Ncle Frederick Skilleter but no corresponding Raffety...also none in Lancs.

Your help has been brilliant and so quick,how do you do it,just wanted to say thanks and if you can give me any more pointers it would be appreciated. Jane

There's a John Rafferty gilder living at 32 Donard street 1907 street directory, Catherine Hennety is the house holder in 27 Little May street from 1908 to 1918.

* Census Years
* 1911
* Antrim
* Windsor Ward
* May Street Little
* Residents of a house

Residents of a house 27 in May Street Little (Windsor Ward, Antrim)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Hennety Catherina 68 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Darnell Co Down Machine Feeder Read and write - Single - - - -
Smith Agnes 50 Female Lodger Roman Catholic London England Joint Coreor Read and write - Single - - - -
Rofferty Mary 73 Female Visitors Roman Catholic Bally Kell Co Down - Read and write - Married - 44 4 4
Skilleter Marget 25 Female Visitor Roman Catholic New Catle Coy Tyrone England - Read and write - Married - 3 1 1
Skilleter Maghdline R 2 Female Visitor Roman Catholic Marceante Buchanpiry, England -

Looks like Ballykell & Darnell,

There is an entry in the 1911 census for a Mary Rafferty and a Catherine Hennetty and I think these could be Johns wife and sister in law. Can you read the bit where it says where born.They both look like co.down but I have never heard of these townlands and cant find the hennitys anywhere either.

Can't see him in any earlier census.

Ellen

* Census Years
* 1901
* Antrim
* Cromac
* Cooke Street
* Residents of a house

Residents of a house 11 in Cooke Street (Cromac, Antrim)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Kafferty John 43 Male Brother in Law Roman Catholic Co Down Carver and Guibler Read and write English Married -
Morrison Christina Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Antrim - Cannot read English Not Married -
Hennety Catherine 40 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic ? Machinest Read and write English Not Married -
Morrison Margaret 19 Female Niece Roman Catholic England Teacher of Music Read and write English Married -
Kafferty Mary 46 Female Sister Roman Catholic Co Down House Keeper Read and write

Jane wrote
dont think the death of john rafferty is my great grandfather as I have a marriage certificate for william john rafferty(son of the above) dated 1914 which states father john rafferty,gilder and carver retired

Yes i think i had the wrong one,which is why i deleted .

Ellen

1901 Census has them both single

Ellen

1901
Name: Daniel Rafferty
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Belfast, Ireland

Civil Parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine A Dulston 58
Augustine Dulston 22
Sarah Claypole 23 c1878 Newark
Daniel Rafferty 27

Hi Ellen,

Yes or could have been third. William Johns great grand-daughter was in touch with me ages ago and said in the family it was thought that william had married in ireland and maybe walked out on his first wife but I couldnt find any record of a previous marriage. Jane

So is Sarah a Second marriage ?

Ellen

Hi Ellen,
Yes this is the family. I dont think the death of john rafferty is my great grandfather as I have a marriage certificate for william john rafferty(son of the above) dated 1914 which states father john rafferty,gilder and carver retired. When I asked my dad years ago if he ever met his grandfather he said only once. Dad was born in 1914 so john must have died after this date. Any other ideas as to finding his birthplace or even brothers or sisters.There is an entry in the 1911 n.ireland census for a john kafferty which gives where born but I cant really make it out. The information does add up,the age doesnt seem right but the other names are related. Thanks for all your help.
Regards Jane

Tree on Ancestry
william john rafferty

Birth 18th may 1867 in Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland Death march 1952 in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Name: Daniel Rafferty
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1869
Birthplace: Belfast, Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Rafferty
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Henety
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01201-0
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101185
Reference Number: v 6-1 p 449
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881