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trying to trace Robert Howard Corkhill

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patchem

patchem Report 20 Jan 2012 17:52

Barbara,
David might not be monitoring these boards any more as the thread is almost a year old.
If you click on his name you can send him a message more directly.

Barbara

Barbara Report 20 Jan 2012 16:51

Hi David
I have information about Margaret Mylecraine which might help you. If you lived in Aigburth as a child with siblings Margaret, Christine and Valerie and mother named Terry then I would like to get in touch
Barbara

Doni

Doni Report 10 Mar 2011 11:01

My great great aunt Sarah Forster from the Isle of Man married a Harry Corkhill and emmigrated to New Zealand. Don't know if this of any use
the forster family owned the Bowring Mill in Onchan

Sheila

Sheila Report 19 Feb 2011 14:25

Hi David

There was a Robert Corkhill marriage in 1938 in Birkenhead. also there is an army record on ancestry for a Robert H Corkhill but is says no trace,

david

david Report 10 Feb 2011 21:20

thanks again for your help in this. I suspect that the past is too murky and illegitimate to ever find out the truth. However, I am going to progress on the assumption that the Robert and Walter identified above were illegitimate offspring of Mary who eventually married George Moore.

It is likely that Robert turned out to be like-father-like-son and I will never be able to positively identify him as my natural grandfather!!

thanks again and best wishes to you all

patchem

patchem Report 10 Feb 2011 20:45

Family patriarch
1841 Isle of Man Census
Jas Kneen Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man Civil Parish: Maughold County/Island: Isle of Man Country: Isle of Man Registration district: Isle of Man Sub-registration district: Isle of Man

Jas Kneen 55
Jane Kneen 40
Jas Kneen 10
Margt Kneen 9
Wm Kneen 7
Elizth Kneen 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1464; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Maughold; County: Isle of Man; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 42; Page: 18; Line: 7; GSU roll: 464356.

Corkhills (and Kneens) living on both sides of them.

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Feb 2011 19:53

So was this Robert Corkill related to Margaret's mother who was also a Corkill?

Were Margaret and Robert actually cousins ?

david

david Report 10 Feb 2011 19:48

thanks for your replies. more info as requested.

Harriet married a Mylecraine in IOM. He died in 1903. She had Margaret by him in 1902. She then married Thomas Keig in 1912 in IOM and they subsequently moved to Liverpool about 1919.

Margaret then gave birth to my dad (Sidney) by this Robert Corkhill in Feb 1924. He was brought up by his grandparents (Thomas and Harriet Keig) and adopted their name. However, the name on his birth certificate is Sidney Corkhill, i.e. that of his natural father.

Margaret had another child, Kathleen, in 1925. Again, the surname on the birth certificate is given as Corkhill but the father is not listed. Kathleen was also brought up by the grandparents and also took the name Keig.

I am assuming (dangerous I know) that both of Margaret's children were fathered by the same chap but, by the time Kathleen was born, he had done a runner and therefore Margaret did not (or could not) enter his details when registering the birth.

Odd though that she still named both children by the same surname, Corkhill

patchem

patchem Report 10 Feb 2011 19:31

1901 Isle of Man Census
Elsie Mylecraine
Age in 1901: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Gender: Female Where born: Maughold, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish: Maughold County/Island: Isle of Man Country: Isle of Man Registration district: Isle of Man Sub-registration district: Isle of Man ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Household schedule number: 19

William Kneen 66 Head
Daniel Kneen 53 Brother
Jane Kneen 57 Sister
Margaret Corkill 69 sister widow
Margaret J Corkill 35 niece
Harriet E Mylecraine 29 niece married
Beatrice J Corkill 15 grniece
William R Mylecraine 2 genephew
Elsie Mylecraine 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5302; Folio: 24; Page: 3.

K

K Report 10 Feb 2011 19:30

1901

Name: William R Mylecraine
Age in 1901: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Gender: Male
Where born: Maughold, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish: Maughold
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Isle of Man
Sub-registration district: Isle of Man
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
William Kneen 66
Daniel Kneen 53
Jane Kneen 57
Margaret Corkill 69
Margaret J Corkill 35
Harriet E Mylecraine 29
Beatrice J Corkill 15
William R Mylecraine 2
Elsie Mylecraine 1

patchem

patchem Report 10 Feb 2011 19:26

1911
MYLECRAINE, Harriet Head Widow F 39 1872 Isle of Man Maughold
MYLECRAINE, Elsie Daughter F 11 1900 School Isle of Man Maughold
MYLECRAINE, Madge Daughter F 8 1903 Garswood Lancashire Resident

RG number: RG14 Piece: 34724 Reference: RG14PN34724 RD635 SD2 ED14/3 SN19
Registration District: Isle of Man Sub District:
Enumeration District: 14/3 Parish: Maughold
Address: Glen Mona Maughold Isle of Man County: Isle of Man

patchem

patchem Report 10 Feb 2011 19:19

How is David's surname Keig?
Thanks

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Feb 2011 19:18

" Margaret's mother's maiden name was Harriet Elizabeth Corkhill ."

So Margaret's mother was a Corkill before she married and then her daughter had your father by a Corkill ?....

Have I understood this right ????

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Feb 2011 19:16

Maybe his marriage

Marriages Jun 1930 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Corkill Robert H - Wright Barrow F. 8e 1926
Wright Agnes C - Corkill Barrow F. 8e 1926

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Feb 2011 19:14

OR ....

Births Mar 1924
Corkill Sydney - Mylcraine - Liverpool 8b 335

patchem

patchem Report 10 Feb 2011 19:11

?
Births Mar 1924
Mylcraine Sydney Mylcraine Liverpool 8b 335

added:
Sydney Corkill
Mother's Maiden Surname: Mylcraine
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1924
Registration district: Liverpool
Registration County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 335

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Feb 2011 19:02

So if Robert and Maragert never married, your father would normally not have a father's name on his certificate.
Was he registered as Corkhill or Mylcraine ?

K

K Report 10 Feb 2011 18:59

Possibly the same boys in 1911

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CORKILL, Howare
Address: Ballagorry Beg Maughold Isle of Man

MOORE, George Head Married M 38 1873 Farm Labourer Horseman Isel of Man Maughold VIEW
MOORE, Mary Wife Married
7 years F 34 1877 Isel of Man Maughold VIEW
CORKILL, Howare Stepson Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Cattleman Isel of Man Maughold VIEW
CORKILL, Herschell Stepson M 14 1897 Isel of Man Maughold VIEW
MOORE, Lulu Daughter F 5 1906 Isel of Man Maughold VIEW
MOORE, Edward Son M 4 1907 Isel of Man Maughold VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34724 Reference:
RG14PN34724 RD635 SD2 ED14/3 SN24

Registration District:
Isle of Man Sub District:
Enumeration District:
14/3 Parish:
Maughold

Address:
Ballagorry Beg Maughold Isle of Man County:
Isle of Man

K

K Report 10 Feb 2011 18:55

1901??? Based on birth in the IOM posted by patchem without the H again in the surname

Name: Robert H Corkill
Age in 1901: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Gender: Male
Where born: Maughold, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish: Maughold
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Isle of Man
Sub-registration district: Isle of Man
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Corlett 34
Isabella Corlett 31
Lily M Corlett 9 Months
Mary Corkill 65 Mother of head
Elizabeth Corlett 38
Robert H Corkill 6 Nephew
Walker K Corkill 4

Edit - Another birth from the Lawson index to match Walter in 1901 as a sibling for Robert H
CORKILL, Walter Ischal 28 May 1896 Ram 357 Not given CORKILL, Mary Ann

david

david Report 10 Feb 2011 18:51

....and as a follow up, Margaret's mother's maiden name was Harriet Elizabeth Corkhill and she came from the IOM.