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Susan, do you have BOTH her marriage certificates please? Is her father's name and occupation the same on both?

She die under the name of mary hawkins.
on my paper work she is Boyles not Boyle?
sorry about all this l am so confused my self, think l my have to see if l can get her spirit to find out.

I give in here too................. I don't think this lady wants to be found.

Susan, do you have her 2nd marriage certificate? If not I think you need it to hopefully help a little more.

Dee x

The father's name and occupation are all there is about him on a marriage cert

The address you have quoted would be Mary's

Sorry had computer went down.
She married again to Ernest George Hawkins in 1953

At least Albert is uncomplicated...........

Person: PIDGEON, Albert James
Address: 31 Harton Road Lr Edmonton

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PIDGEON, Albert Thomas Head Married M 31 1880 Plasters Labourer Lr Edmonton VIEW
PIDGEON, Ada Frances Wife Married
11 years F 27 1884 Tenham Kent VIEW
PIDGEON, Albert James Son M 9 1902 Lr Edmonton VIEW
PIDGEON, Alfred Thomas Son M 8 1903 Lr Edmonton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7380 Reference:
RG14PN7380 RG78PN357 RD132 SD5 ED30 SN557

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Edmonton Enumeration District:
30 Parish:
Edmonton

Address:
31 Harton Road Lr Edmonton County:
Middlesex

I hereby throw in the towel. I am going to get some dinner!

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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Agnes Boyle
Name: Mary Agnes Boyle
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1900
Baptism Date: 27 May 1900
Father's name: James Boyle
Mother's name: Margaret Boyle
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell St Michael and All Angels
Borough: Southwark

To add to the confusion......................

Name: Mary F Pidgeon
Spouse Surname: Hawkins
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1953
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 949
Find Spouse: Ernst G

I'm just getting lost here. Is this the second marriage??

Mary F Pidgeon
Spouse Surname: Hawkins
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1953
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 949

So she can't be the other Mary;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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BOYLES Mary Elizabeth M Winchester 2c 129

Name: Albert J Pidgeon
Death Registration Month/Year: 1949
Age at death (estimated): 46
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 417

Mary Hawkins
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1990
Age at death (estimated): 89
Registration district: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 12
Page: 327

I must admit I am very confused myself.

looked at the other thread and I wondered the same Astra.

Susan, what name did Mary Agnes die under.... Pidgeon or Hawkins or something else?


Dee x

So is Mary E M Boyles on the other thread the same as Mary Agnes Boyles on this thread or are we now looking for a different person completely?

She died Feb 1990 Enfield

Before you spend too much time on this.....check Susan's previous thread.

When did Mary Agnes die?


Dee x

Sorry l am a bit slow , not very good at this yet.
Cedars road l think is in Edmonton.
John William Boyles was on her Marriage certified.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1257760