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Edith Elizabeth Clark DOB 24/08/1921

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Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 14:54

I am trying to obtain info about my birth mother Edith (Edie) Clark. I know very little about her except that she was in the army in 1940's. That she did marry and adopt a child. I have searched marriage records but there are so many Edith Clarks. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could find out who she married with so little info. also i am thinking that death records would be in the womans married name. Any ideas welcolme

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:04

sorry I dont know

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:13

When you say she was in the Army in 1940's do you know whether that was the regular army or the Land Army? It was in 1941 that single women aged 20~30 were first "Called Up" for war work.

Also you say that you know that she married and adopted a child. Where did you obtain that information from?

jax

jax Report 18 Feb 2011 15:18

Cannot see any Ediths with that dob that have died up until 2005 unless it was before 1969 she died or after 2005 of course

jax

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:19

thanks for looking that up. I thought there might be a way of finding the marriage record but it is difficult to find as they dont have the persons age on them. - unless you pay for the certificate. I did send away for one marriage cert with Edith E Clark married in the army but unfortunately was not the right one.

jax

jax Report 18 Feb 2011 15:27

As mentioned her birth is not obvious on freebmd if you dont know where she was born can you tell us the area you were born please

jax

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:28

What if her name was Edie rather than Edith?

Name: Edie E Clark
Mother's Maiden Surname: Simpson
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1921
Registration district: Alton
Registration county: Hampshire, Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 323

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:32

the information re being marrying and adopting a child came from a living relative who years ago had contact with Ediths sister Evelyn. Evelyn has since passed away.
I sent for her birth certificate. I knew my mothers date of birth or at least the day and the month and found out the year by doing a search on here.

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:38

yes it is Edie on the birth certificate but on my birth cert it is Edith so I assumed she would use edith on marriage cert - not sure though

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 15:49

I have correct birth cert but now trying to find out married name
with regards to the army not sure

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:03

Thanks everyone for your help. I am almost sure that Edie didnt die before 1969 but could of course have done so after 2005. so any ideas how I would find this out. I have a feeling it comes down to getting a married name first. .

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:12

How about this as a possibility:
Name: Edith Green
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1921
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1984
Age at death (estimated): 62
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 575

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:15

I did hear that she travelled overseas a fair bit is there any way I could find info on this. I guess it would depend if that was in her maiden or married name. Is there a place I can search army records from 1941

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:22

WW2 army service records are not currently online anywhere. The records are only currently available to the individual themselves or their next of kin if the individual is deceased.

See:

http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:24

I have Edie or Ediths birth cert thanks Jonesey. she was born in alton as per your first notice. Edie Elizabeth clark. I need her marriage details now. or army info. I found one overseas (army) marriage for an Edith E Clark in 1944 and sent for the cert it wasnt her.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:41

Grasping at straws I know but as the forename and birth date tally I think that I would be tempted to obtain a copy of the 1984 death certificate that I noted above.

It should give details of the persons birthplace and if they were married or widowed who their spouse was.

You seem very convinced that she was in the army during the 1940's. What was your source of information regarding that?

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 16:55

I was thinking that was a birth cert.(didnt actually read it properly) yes I think you are right that could be worth a try. how did you find that. i would be interested to know if you can search with just the first name and where you searched.
with regards to the knowledge about the army that was from family members who did tell me little bits of info about her. She did not keep in touch with them after a certain time though

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Feb 2011 17:07

The death registration was found on Ancestry where it is possible to search using just a forename and an actual birth date (As it appears on the register).

I note that her sister married in 1945. Did she have any children? If so might they have any information about their aunty?

Getting back to your mother, I took a look to see if I could spot a Edie (Edith) Clark/Green marriage post 1941 but nothing shows up in England or Wales. There could of course be several reasons for that:

a) She married elsewhere

b) She never formally married

c) If she did marry a Mr Green it may not have been her 1st marriage in which case her marriage to him would have been in her formerly married name, not her maiden name.

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 18 Feb 2011 23:42

Thanks for suggestions and info. I am in Australia hence leaving the discussion at 3am in the morning here. sounds like i should join Ancestry if you can search first name with date of birth. i wonder why they havent picked that up on here.
can i ask did you search for marriage between Clark & Green in the military overseas marriages?

jax

jax Report 19 Feb 2011 00:13

She could still be alive unless you know otherwise?

jax