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Do you have a copy of the divorce papers please? It was quite unusual for a woman to obtain a divorce at that time. It may tell you if a third party was involved.

Reference Title Date
CS46 Court of Session: warrants of the Register of Acts and Decreets, 5th Series 1830-1994

Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Archives of Scotland
Reference CS46/1903/4/47
Title Decree of divorce etc, Mrs Catherine Carnegie or McIntosh v Donald McIntosh
Dates Apr 1903
Access status Open

Location Off site
Description Date of decree: 7 Mar 1903
Level File

Sorry Shirley, cannot help.
Donald's father was also Donald born in Croy near Inverness. Younf Donald known as Peck worked in England as a Butler.
Regards Bill McIntosh

Do we know what donalds dads name is??? i know its a common name but i have lots of macintosh's im trying to find in alston/arthuret cumbria. Charles Macintosh married a margaret teasdale there in 1774, and went on to have lots of children including sarah, hannah, francis, james, hannah(again), margaret, william, john, frank etc etc. . His son francis named one of his sons donald, but he was born in 1809 in great harwood where the moved to after alston in cumbria. Can anyone help with finding a death for ccharles macintosh born in 1850 and his wife margaret nee teasdale born 1850 ish also. Last known in alston around 1793 , as last child, charles , was buried there. Lost them after that .

In the 1922 marriage of my grandparents his father Donald was not shown as deceased. This may be because they did not know if he was dead or alive. In Court documents (Divorce) it stated his wheareabouts were unknown but belived to have returned to Forres, Scotland. He was in England in 1906. An acrimonious divorce and as far as I am aware Donald McIntosh abandoned his wife and son. Divorce was quite rare in those days. In 1922 Donald would have been 55. I know there is a second Donald McIntosh also born in Forres but in 1869 - this is a different person. Catherine Carnegie lived in Coatbridge Dundyvan Road where she died. My father was born in the same house. Bill McIntosh

Thanks everybody. All the info previously posted is correct as I have the relevant Birth, Marriage, Death and Divorce certificates. I have all I need for the family tree except the death of Donald McIntosh. He was in Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria at Grimes Hall and possibly working as a Butler. He had been a butler in a number of houses in Scotland prior to that. He was divorced by 1906 when he registered his place of residence as Grimes Hall, Kirkby Lonsdale on the death certificate of Jane McIntosh his sister. He definately moved to England. There is no trace of him in Scottish records after 1906. He therefore died outside Scotland. I am looking for a record of his death in England and possibly if he remarried. As a Butler he moved about so in 1911 census he could be anywhere in England. Thanks everybody for your time. Bill McIntosh

Name: Donald Mcintosh
Death Registration Month/Year: 1918
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 876

1901?
Name: Donald McIntosh
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: St John and St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St. Stephens
County/Island: London
Country: England

What is his occupation in the 1897 marriage.You may have to wait until 1911 full census come on line.Scottish one in April.English one is on Find my Past,but should be coming on Ancestry soon.As Catherine and Donald are seperated soon after marriage ,you could look for a poor relief in Laurenceskirk,Kincardinshire.


Ellen

1901
Name: William D Macintosh
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary Jane Carnegie
Gender: Male
Registration Number: 263
Registration district: Laurencekirk
Civil parish: Laurencekirk
County: Kincardineshire
Address: 62 High St
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_83
Household Members: Name Age
William Carnegie 61
Annie Carnegie 62
Mary Jane Carnegie 27
William D Macintosh 3
John Irvine Macmillan 31


This yours ?wrong Mother entered .

1901
Name: William D Macintosh
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary Jane Carnegie
Gender: Male
Registration Number: 263
Registration district: Laurencekirk
Civil parish: Laurencekirk
County: Kincardineshire
Address: 62 High St
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_83
Household Members: Name Age
William Carnegie 61
Annie Carnegie 62
Mary Jane Carnegie 27
William D Macintosh 3
John Irvine Macmillan 31


This yours ?wrong Mother entered .

CATHERINE INNES CARNEGIE
Birth: 01 JUL 1870 Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland
Father: WILLIAM CARNEGIE Family
Mother: ANN MURRAY
1901
Name: Katharine Mcintosh
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Female
Where born: Laurencekirk, Kincardine
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil parish: Edinburgh Robertson Memorial
County: Midlothian
Address: 2 Oswald Rd
Occupation: Cook Domestic
ED: 109
Household schedule number: 75
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_390
Household Members: Name Age
Helen Romanes 66
Isabella Romanes 54
Jane Selfer 26
Catharine Linn 22
Katharine Mcintosh 30
Mary Irvine 32


This your Catherine in 1901?

1922
18 JulAge: 24 Marriage to Christina Mitchell Burnett
North Glenton, Rickarton, Fetteresso, Kincardineshire, Scotland ( 258-01-24 ) Does this marriage state if his father is living or Deceased ?

Ellen

Was Willian Douglas Mcintosh born in Glasgow.Would Catherine Carnigie have claimed poor relief in Glasgow.Mitchell Library ,Glasgow has records .If you can't search yourself cost is £15 roughly.They do a very thourgh questioning in Glasgow poor relief.

Ellen

This looks like him in 1891:

1891 Scotland Census
Registration Number: 602
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: Brisbane House
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 22
Page: 4
Roll: CSSCT1891_210

Charles T Brisbane 46 England Head Living on Private Means
Florence T H Brisbane 44 England Wife
Isola L F Latham 18 England Niece
Angie Ingles 50 Fordyce, Bafnfshire Servant Useful Maid (Dom Serv)
Jessie Middlemas 27 Kingussie, Inverness Servant Cook (Dom Serv)
Donald McIntosh 26 Forres, Morrayshire Servant Footman (Dom Serv)
Catherine Ferguson 21 Lochgilphead, Argyleshire Servant Housemaid (Dom Serv)
Margaret Nickolson 19 Carradale, Argyleshire Servant Housemaid (Dom Serv)

not there in 1901 census either

Address: Grimes Hill, Middleton
County: Westmorland

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

MOORE, William Middleton Head Married M 66 1835 Living On Own Means Middleton
MOORE, Margaret Elizth Wife Married F 58 1843 Tatham Lancashire
MOORE, Mary Visitor Widow F 64 1837 Living On Own Means Tatham Lancashire
FOSTER, William Barnes Servant Single M 30 1871 Butler (Domestic) Bromfield Cumberland
CHADWICK, Annie Servant Widow F 40 1861 Cook (Domestic) Barrow in Furness Lancashire
INGMAN, Sarah Jane Servant Single F 25 1876 Housemaid (Domestic) Ulverston Lancashire
BARNS, Margt Eleanor Servant Single F 18 1883 Housemaid (Domestic) Duckinfield Cheshire
ROBINSON, Ellen Servant Single F 20 1881 Kitchenmaid (Domestic) Runcorn Cheshire
WILSON, Edward Conder Servant Single M 18 1883 Poultry Boy (Domestic) Middleton Westmorland

he's not at Grimeshall/ Grimeshill in 1911

1911 census Address: Grimhill Middleton Ky Lonsdale
County: Westmorland

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MOORE, Margaret Elizabeth Head Widow F 68 1843 Private Means Lancs Fatham
PARKER, William Servant Single M 41 1870 Butler Domestic Durham Westhartlepoo
CHADWICK, Annie Servant Single F 48 1863 Cook Donmestic Lancs Barrow in Furness
GREENBANK, Agnes Servant Single F 24 1887 Housemaid Domestic Yorks Ingleton
RICHARDSON, Marguerite Servant Single F 17 1894 Housemaid Domestic Cumberland Millom
GRADWELL, Ada Servant Single F 16 1895 Kitchenmaid Domestic Lancs Newton Heath

Whilst there are 4 ways to spell McIntosh, Mackintosh, MacIntosh and McKintosh, this line of the family has always been McIntosh. Donald could write and on certificates Donald signs his name McIntosh. His Uncles and aunts 10 of them had different variations. His Grandfather was Hugh McIntosh and grandmother Janet McDonald. Depending on who could read and write and what the registrar wrote the spelling of the surname varied. The data above comes from official documents which I have copies of. This data is correct. He disappears from Scottish records and as there is no trace of him dying in Scotland I can only assume he died in England or elsewhere.

Donald McIntosh was born 26/11/1867 at 17 North Street, Forres, Elgin, Scotland. Father Donald McIntosh and mother Janet Smith. In 1897 he married Catherine Carnegie in Glasgow - shotgun marriage. His son my grandfather William Douglas McIntosh was born 10th August 1897. On 7th march 1903 Catherine obtained a divorce. Donald's occupation was Butler. The next record I found was in 1906 when he signed the death certificate of his sister Jane in Forres. On the certificate in 1906 his residence was shown as Grimes Hall, Kirkby Lonsdale which I believe is in Cumbria. I suspect he stayed in England as there is no record of his death in Scotland. He may have remarried in England and had another family. I would be grateful for any information. Bill McIntosh

Mike - to me "between" implies it's in neither.

Was just going off Google definition.

Kirkby Lonsdale - historic market town between Lake District and Yorkshire Dales