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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 10:25

Jo who is your connection to this couple please as perhaps this may help if we knew.

Christina

Christina Report 23 Feb 2011 10:30

1881 England Census
about Catherine Gant Name: Catherine Gant
[Catherine Goat]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Gant
Mother's Name: Catherine Gant
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Bungay St Mary
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Priory Lane Cottage
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wangford
Sub-registration district: Bungay
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Gant 45
Catherine Gant 26
Elizabeth Gant 8
Catherine Gant 4


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Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 10:31

Catherine Goate 1877 she was my great nan

so when looking up Census and birth records some say Catherine Carmichael Goate

i have had an email saying she married a Furniss thats why i'm not sure if i have the right person now

Sorry

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 10:34

But who was your grandfather?

Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 10:40

My grandfather was George James Hubbard born 1875 great grandfather Great Yarmouth

George James Hubbard born 1899 granfather great Yarmouth, i have this birth cert and on this it say Catherine Goate

Sorry cant answer straight away i'm at work

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 10:45

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Catherine Carmichael Goate Name: Catherine Carmichael Goate
Spouse Name: William Hothersal Furniss
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 19 Apr 1896
Parish: St Mary, Putney
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth

Catherine spinster of the parish of Great Yarmouth.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Feb 2011 10:45

I think we can saftely say then, that Catherine "Carmichael" Goate, is not your Grt Grandmother. There does not seem to be a birth entry for Catherine Goate born Woolwich!

Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 10:50

Kate Goat born 1877 Woolwich Apr-June 1D 1006

But could she have been able or allowed to put Catherine Goate on a
Birth Cert and on the Marriage Cert??

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 11:03

Jo if your grandfather was George James Hubbard then go with that marriage and buy the cert. this will tell you her fathers name and occupation.

Great Yarmouth Norfolk vol 4b page 26

Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 11:16

Not as far as i know.
I should be getting the Cert in the next few days (fingers crossed)
I would like to thank you for all your help
Thank you

I guess i have to keep banging my head of the wall till i get the Cert
:0)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 11:20

Once again a submitted record unfortunatly.

GEORGE JAMES HUBBARD Pedigree
Male Family

Birth:
Christening:
Death: 02 JUL 1958 **************

Parents:
Father: SAMUEL HUBBARD Family
Mother: ELLEN RACKHAM

Marriages:
Spouse: CATHARINE GOATE Family
Marriage: 05 JAN 1895 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 11:55

Jo I am having trouble with pooter and the genes site, it keeps locking up.

If George Hubbard is the son of Samuel Hubbard c1843 I can't find them on any other census but the 1901 and an earlier one for 1871 so they must be on either missing census or mistranscribed.

Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 12:31

I have a copy of George James Hubbard birth Cert feb 1875 born in the District of Mutford Gorleston Great Yarmouth
Fathers name
Samuel Hubbard workman at Malthouse
Mothers name
Ellen Rackham(an X was the mark of the Ellen Hubbard)

I can only find them on Census 1891
Samuel Hubbard age 48
Ellen Hubbard age 40
George J Hubbard age 16
Samuel D Hubbard age 12
Nelly M Hubbard age 7

On the Marriage Cert between Samuel Hubbard and Ellen Rackham it say

Samuel Hubbard 26 bachelor Fisherman and his father James Hubbard
Eleanor Rackham 19 spinster and her father Samuel Rackham but she signed the marriage cert but she couldn't sign the birth!!!!! Hmmmmm strange lady
but apart from that i cant find any more on them either
:0)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Feb 2011 12:51




1911 census - household transcription
Person: HUBBARD, Ellen
Address: 13 Dolman Square Southtown Great Yarmouth Norfolk

HUBBARD, Samuel Head Married M 71 1840 Malster Gorleston Norfolk VIEW
HUBBARD, Ellen Wife Married
40 years F 60 1851 Burgh Castle Suffolk VIEW
HUBBARD, Samuel Son Single M 32 1879 Labourer General Southtown Norfolk VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11102 Reference:
RG14PN11102 RG78PN601 RD219 SD3 ED10 SN258

Registration District:
Yarmouth Sub District:
Gorleston Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Gorleston

Address:
13 Dolman Square Southtown Great Yarmouth Norfolk County:
Norfolk

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Feb 2011 12:59

1901 England Census
about Nellie Hubbard
Name: Nellie Hubbard
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Hubbard
Mother's Name: Ellenor Hubbard
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Yarmouth, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Gorleston
Ecclesiastical parish: Gorleston
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Gorleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 166
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Hubbard 60
Ellenor Hubbard 51
Samuel Hubbard 22
Nellie Hubbard 17
Samuel Hubbard 6 (Nephew)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Feb 2011 13:09

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Hubbard Nellie Mabel Mutford 4a 902


Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
BUTTIFANT George Thomas Yarmouth 4b 15
HUBBARD Nellie Mabel Yarmouth 4b 15

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BUTTIFANT, Nellie Mabel
Address: 51 Blackfriars Road Great Yarmouth

BUTTIFANT, George Thomas Head Married M 28 1883 Grocer's Manager Norfolk Yarmouth VIEW
BUTTIFANT, Nellie Mabel Wife Married
3 years F 27 1884 Norfolk Yarmouth VIEW
BUTTIFANT, Samuel Alfred Thomas Son M 2 1909 Norfolk Yarmouth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11072 Reference:
RG14PN11072 RG78PN599 RD219 SD1 ED7 SN297

Registration District:
Yarmouth Sub District:
Yarmouth Southern Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Gt Yarmouth

Address:
51 Blackfriars Road Great Yarmouth County:
Norfolk

Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 13:13

O why does this hurt my head :(

Thank you for all of that infor
this is what i have just found

Ellen Rackham
Birth 1851
Oct-Dec
St. Faiths Norfolk
13 123

Ellen Rackham
Birth 1850
Apr-June
Mutford Norfolk
13 516

but no marriage under that name Marriage under name of

Eleoner Rackham
Samuel Hubbard
Date Dec 1869
Great Yarmouth
thats what i have found so far (boo hoo)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 14:35

1871 England Census
about Samuel Hubbard Name: Samuel Hubbard
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son-in-Law
Spouse's Name: Ellie Hubbard
Gender: Male
Where born: Gorleston, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Burgh Castle
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Gorleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Rackham 50 Wifes father*****Ag Lab
Ellie Hubbard 22 Wife of Samuel*****
Samuel Hubbard 26 Son in law*****Ag Lab born Gorleston, Suffolk
Sarah Rackham 12

RG10; Piece: 1783; Folio: 90; Page: 9

Joanne

Joanne Report 23 Feb 2011 14:53

Thanks for all you help today i have just got to wait for the marriage cert on these people, i am hoping to get them in the next few days.
I better do so work before i get moan at by the Boss because all day i have spent looking for these people

Once again i would like to say THANK YOU to all that has helped me today i couldn't have done this with out you guys

:0) :0) Xx
Jo

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Feb 2011 14:58

Once again only a submitted record.

ELEANOR RACKHAM Pedigree
Female Family


Marriages:
Spouse: SAMUEL HUBBARD Family
Marriage: 18 DEC 1869 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


Someone on Ancestry has this on their tree.
Witnesses were Edward John Supson and Hannah Spence.