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Hi, can any one help me find a birth record for my maternal grandfather. I dont have much to go on i am afraid, and i dont know how much is factually correct because, i assume, he wanted his past to remain in the past.

His name was christian name was Charles, surname either Barber, Bartlett, Bartley or similar. He was born 24th Feb 1903/04 in Birmingham (Acocks Green Area).

He seemed to be well educated, had lovely handwriting. Served in the merchant navy at sometime, was a miner and may have spent time in prison.

I believe his father was called John and was a carpenter.

Many thanks in anticipation

What surname did he use when he married grandma?

Barber, but i dont believe that was his birth surname, although i can not find any trace of a change of name

Did he have any siblings ?

Why do you think the name is wrong?

How do you know where he was born? Are you sure it's Birmingham?

Jill

right birth qtr ??

Name: Charles Pritchard Barber
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 262

i am not aware of siblings.

My mum is sure that Barber is not birth surname he may have told her something when she was younger

He took my mum to Acocks Green when she was little and told her that was where he was born

Do you have your Grandparents' marriage cert please?

What addresses are given?
What are the names of the witnesses?

hang on, will get marr cert

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Charles Pritchard Barber
Name: Charles Pritchard Barber
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 147 (click to see others on page)

This looks like the death for that birth

1911 - using wildcard:

ousehold BARKER, Charles Arthur 1903 8 M Aston Warwickshire
Household BARLOW, Charles Henry 1903 8 M Nuneaton Warwickshire
Household BARNES, Charles 1904 7 M Birmingham Warwickshire
Household BARNES, Charles 1904 7 M Aston Warwickshire
Household BARNETT, Charles 1903 8 M Coventry Warwickshire
Household BARNICKLE, Charles 1903 8 M Birmingham Warwickshire
Household BARRATT, Charles Henry 1904 7 M Birmingham Warwickshire

I havent got a copy of marriage certificate but what i do know is that they met in Evesham, he was at the time working for a metal castings company. They got married on 18th June 1938 at Evesham Register Office. My grandmothers name was Evelyn Price

Mrs Grumpy, what is wild card?

When you put in say, first three letters and an asterisk: Bar* should show up possible options.

Jill

ok, thank you

What year did he die?

would he have had to prove who he was the start work? or to get a identity card?

died 13 July 1977

is this his death?

seems like the informant wasn't sure of his DoB either!

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Charles Barber Name: Charles Barber
Birth Date: about 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: Quarter 3 1977
Registration district: Hereford
Inferred County: Hereford & Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 0272

Ah, a name shifter, my fave. ;)


Marriages Jun 1938
Barber Charles Price Evesham 6c 598
Price Evelyn Barber Evesham 6c 598


You need the marriage certificate to see at least what he *said* for his age, father's name, etc.

My gr-grf and his sister married under a fake surname, 8 years apart. But they both named the same fake father, a Francis Monck. No such person ever existed. But it turned out that their real father was Francis Hill.

Similarly, although my gr-grf appears in two censuses under the fake surname, he reported his true place of birth.

So there can be little grains of truth even in lies, and it can be worth knowing what people said, even if they were lies.