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More disappearing Gleesons! can anyone help?

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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 16:40

Can't find a report of the trial -but really interesting anyway :)

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 16:21

EXETER GUILDHALL .
Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Wednesday, February 27, 1861; Issue 4950.

I have found a report of the burglary - and the fact he was tried -but not the outcome! there were several people in on it - but he is quoted as saying' I expect I'll get 4 years' so he was lucky to get 1 !

Thanks you for your help

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Feb 2014 16:06

Think you've got him, definitely says 41 one the image not 61 :-D

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 16:02

This could be him then. Image looks more like 41.
Its Exeter Prison



Name: P G
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: 1800
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Limerick, Ireland
Civil Parish: Exeter St David
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Feb 2014 15:55

Not sure?????

Name: P G
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Wortley
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds and Ripon
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: labourer in dye house

Condition as to marriage: married

View image
Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds]
ED, institution, or vessel: Leeds Borough Gaol
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3352
Folio: 28

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 15:52

Thanks! (Hadn't gone yet!) I did think i had stuff about something to do with 'Glesson's stables@ but searched through threads for his name-and nothing came up - so may have been a brother or uncle (lol) Thanks very much . Sorted .

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Feb 2014 15:49

All Tax, Criminal, Land & Wills Results
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Patrick Gleeson
Name: Patrick Gleeson
Date of Trial: 9 Mar 1861
Trial Year: 1861
Location of Trial: Devon, England
Sentence: 1 year
Crime: Breaking & entering warehouse and stealing
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Nice to see you again

Dee xx

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 15:44

have to pop out - will be back later if anyone can help in any small way

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 15:36

Was alive in 1856!
Genuki Police Exeter

12 May Patrick Gleeson D/D & use of obs #22 Jas Wood #2 James Wood Supt Steel D Bench caution & discharge
rag-gatherer lang West Qtr
Exeter

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2014 15:28

Resurrecting this thread as relevant stuff here already. I am trying to find out about Patt Gleeson who first appears on 1851 in Exeter devon. He says he was born Cork Ireland.

1851
Patt Gleeson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsey Gleeson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cork, Ireland
Civil Parish: Exeter St Mary Major
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St Sidwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 313
Piece: 1868
Folio: 368
Page Number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Patt Gleeson 29
Betsey Gleeson 30
John Gleeson 4

My puzzle is I can find Betsey/Elizabeth with lots more children in 1861- but not Patt. I believe I have found a death for him in 1865.(Exeter,Devon)

But don't understand where he was in 1861. Eliabeth is still 'married' and down as head -but its crossed out and changed to wife- so presumedly he was absent-somewhere. I have tried typing -prisoner and inmate and patient -but cannot find him. Can anyone help please? On 1871 she is 'widow' so that ties up with a likely death in 1865. Many of the children die too - so I think possible he was in a hospital or something?
Also if anyone can direct me to irish records to find them before they came to england that would be great! (i have tried igi-but nothing)

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2011 19:09

Oh thats great news-she survived and she's not a prostitute!! hooray-thanks so much. I gues the nuns must have helped her find a job then.
wonder what a nurse domestic was?
Maybe its like a doctors help/getting things ready? thanks so much

Choccy

Choccy Report 25 Feb 2011 19:03


no problem - have a subscription - looks like her


1911

CLARKE, Edward Revely Head Married M 36 1875 Physician And Surgeon Tunbridge Wells Kent VIEW
CLARKE, Olivia Wife Married F 26 1885 Louth Lincolnshire VIEW
CLARKE, Cyril Son Married M 1 1910 Plymouth Devon VIEW
GLEESON, Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 Nurse Domestic Exeter Devon VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12961 Reference:
RG14PN12961 RG78PN748 RD276 SD2 ED3 SN77

Registration District:
Plymouth Sub District:
Plymouth South East Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Plymouth

Address:
5 Brunswick Terrace Plymouth County:
Devonshire

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2011 18:44

HOUSEHOLD GLEESON ELIZABETH F 1888 23 Plymouth Devonshire

Just found this on 1911-But don't have credits-and only need this one. Wish you could pay as you go!
Very cheeky-but does anyone have any leftover that they don't require that they wouldn't mind checking for me?

I just wondered if this may be 'Eliza' from Exeter born 1887 and last known in Plymouth in 1901?
If anyobody doesn't mind I would be grateful-and promise to share some when I get a batch next time.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Feb 2011 17:52

Same for me too........... starving kids!!


Dee x

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2011 17:52

Yes Dee-they are a nightmare all round!!! Men too

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2011 17:51

Just saw possible for Margarets death-I would say quite likely. None of them lived to be more than about 30 or 40-so poor I guess. I have been in touch with the Charity Home records-but they have nothing of that time. They were very nice though and told me it wasn't necessarily for orphans-but could be just poor childern where parents were unable to cope too. Must go now

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 25 Feb 2011 17:49

Ha ha-Thats so funny! Thanks so much for checking them out anyway. Saved me a trip to the library for the Lusitania (My great grandad was crew on that actually!)
I will keep digging later. Have to go and cook kids tea now or I'll be in trouble! Thanks again for your suggestions.It eliminates a few more anyway LOL

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Feb 2011 17:48

Margaret was around the Plymouth area in 1901 so sadly this maybe her death??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Margaret Gleeson
Name: Margaret Gleeson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 20
District: Plymouth
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 147



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Feb 2011 17:47

And the ladies vanish!!!!!!!!! Deary me, your Gleesons are a headache, do they like to hid like this all the time???


Dee x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Feb 2011 17:42

The one who arrived 1909 aboard the Lusitania was 56 years old and a US citizen. So maybe scrub that one too!