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Gillian

Gillian Report 25 Apr 2011 15:01

When I looked online the only place I found was charging 60 australian dollars for any certificate that you ordered nearly gropped dead with shock so didnt persue it further, will look on the site you supplied many thanks as my Mum would have said " your bloods worth bottling". Gill

patchem

patchem Report 24 Apr 2011 18:49

What certificates cost 60 dollars?

From the GRO
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/faqs-birth-death-marr.asp

Q2. How much does it cost to order a birth, death or marriage certificate online?
Standard service
Full certificate with GRO index reference supplied £9.25
Full certificate without GRO index reference supplied £9.25
Additional full certificate issued at same time £9.25

Gillian

Gillian Report 24 Apr 2011 17:04

patchem you found the same as I did for 1841 she was born in 39. The only other information I found was for 1861 when she was 56 and a laundress living with her daughter sarah who was then 22 and a housemaid it was the following year that she married george tresadern, thanks for the exta 1851 info. By the way cant afford any certificates as they cost 60 dollars a pop out of my price range Im afraid. Gill

patchem

patchem Report 23 Apr 2011 17:59

1851 England Census
Sarah Davidson
Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head Gender: F (Female) Where born: Thundersley, Essex, England Civil parish: Clerkenwell County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Market Street Occupation: laundress
Registration district: Clerkenwell Sub-registration district: Goswell Street ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 235
Piece: 1519 Folio: 27 Page Number: 46

Sarah Davidson 46 widow
John Davidson 14 apprentice to printer
Sarah Davidson 11

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1519; Folio: 27; Page: 46; GSU roll: 87853.

patchem

patchem Report 23 Apr 2011 17:50

So you are looking for the family of Sarah Davidson, 1843, Mile End?
What is her Mother's maiden name from Sarah's birth certificate?
If the census below is the 'correct' 1841 one, then Sarah was born in about 1839, not 1843, as showing on the later censuses?

1841 England Census
John Davidson
Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St James Clerkenwell Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Street Address: Turnmill Street Occupation: cutler
Registration district: Clerkenwell Sub-registration district: St James
Piece: 661 Book: 10 Folio: 24 Page Number: 7

John Davidson 30
Sarah Davidson 35 not local
Elizabeth Davidson 12
Caroline Davidson 9 not local
John Davidson 5
Sarah Davidson 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 661; Book: 10; Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 24; Folio: 24; Page: 7; Line: 15; GSU roll: 438778.

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 Apr 2011 16:42

Ok everyone who has helped me could you do so again? I am looking for George Tresaderns wifes family the Davidsons I can find Sarah and a brother John but not her parents John born in 1811 approx and hae mother also Sarah born in 1806 approx, according to the 1841 census has 3 older siblings for Sarah Elizabeth b 1829 Caroline b1832 and John b 1837 all approx I think they were in Turnmill st st james clerkenwell. I cannot find anything to do with her siblings but did find her mother in 1861 living on her own with daughter Sarah then aged 22. And thats it if anyone can tke me forward I would be grateful. Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 31 Mar 2011 18:27

yeah the 1891 census has him down as John H Trewsadern it could be the same as the other side of the family where Amy Jane Allen added her mothers maiden name to make Roache Allen which was why it was difficult to find her. Gill

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2011 17:58

In 1881 the family are going by the surname Harding - it is definitely them as there are too many coincidences of names, occupations and places.
Where is he down as being John H Tresadern, is that the 1891 census?
Your suggestion of he being John Harding Tresadern looks a strong possibility.

Gillian

Gillian Report 31 Mar 2011 13:21

patchem just thought John H Tresadern could be J ohn Harding Tresadern?

Gillian

Gillian Report 31 Mar 2011 09:57

patchem not sure what you mean by not Tresadern but Harding can you enlighten me further please. Gill

patchem

patchem Report 30 Mar 2011 19:46

A possible birth also:
Births Mar 1870
TRESADIREN Albert Bethnal Green 1c 349

Added:
Not sure now:
Births Sep 1868
TRESARDIREN Eliza Bethnal Green 1c 305
Births Mar 1869
Tresadem Eliza M Bethnal G. 1c 230a
Treshadem Eliza M Bethnal G. 1c 230a

patchem

patchem Report 30 Mar 2011 19:35

Harding not Tresadern....
1881 England Census
John Harding
Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Harding Gender: Male Where born: Spitalfields Civil parish: Bethnal Green County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 21 Half Nichol St Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Willow Cutter Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Hackney Road ED, institution, or vessel: 2
John Harding 42
Sarah Harding 38 Mile End
John Harding 15 Bethnal Green
Eliza Harding 12
Albert Harding 11
George Harding 4
William Harding
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 410; Folio: 52; Page: 44; GSU roll: 1341089.

patchem

patchem Report 30 Mar 2011 19:22

?
1871 England Census
John Treserdon
Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Treserdon Gender: Male Where born: Mile End Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Hackney Road ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 217
John Treserdon 29 Willow Cutter Half Michal Street
Sarah Treserdon 28 Mile End
John Treserdon 5
Eliza Treserdon 2
Albert Treserdon 1
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 474; Folio: 47; Page: 39; GSU roll: 823368.

patchem

patchem Report 30 Mar 2011 19:17

?
1861 England Census
John Tresadern
Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Tresaden Mother's Name: Eliza Tresadern Gender: Male Where born: Spitelfields, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England Street Address: 5 Halfmichal Street
Occupation: cabinet maker
Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Hackney Road ED, institution, or vessel: 2
George Tresaden 44 willow cutter Shoreditch
Eliza Tresadern 44 Islington
John Tresadern 20
Thomas Tresadern 18 splint cutter
Henry Tresadern 16 carver and gilder
James Tresadern 14
William Tresadern 12
Albert Tresadern 8
Eliza Tresadern 5
Arther Tresadern 3
James Andrews 46
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 250; Folio: 32; Page: 16; GSU roll: 542599.

patchem

patchem Report 30 Mar 2011 19:02

1901 England Census
John Tresadeon
[John Tresadern] Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Tresadeon Gender: Male Where born: Spitalfields Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Haggerston County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 79 boston street (?) Occupation:cutter Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 19 household schedule number: 87
John Tresadeon 61
Sarah Tresadeon 58
Albert Tresadeon 30
George Tresadeon 25
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 280; Folio: 64; Page: 16.

George's birth certificate will have his Mother's maiden name.

?
Births Jun 1873
Tresadern George Richard Bethnal Green 1c 188

Gillian

Gillian Report 30 Mar 2011 17:45

o k need more help on the Tresadern front , have found Georges father in the 1891 census but cannot find any other references to him anywhere else. His name was John H Tresadern and he was married to Sarah S maiden name unknown and in 1891 he was 52 and she was 48 and they already had William aged10 George 14 and Albert aged 21 and lived in bethnall green. Sincerely Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 20 Mar 2011 20:39

You are correct that is my grandfather he was the only one of his siblings to pass the age of 70 he passed away in 1982. Thank you for your help once again patchem. Gill

patchem

patchem Report 20 Mar 2011 15:59

Leonard's birth certificate will have his Mother's maiden name.
When and where was he born?

This one?
Births Sep 1904
Fleming Leonard Kensington 1a 166

Leonard Fleming
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1904
Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1904
Father's Name: Thomas Fleming
Mother's Name: Jane Elizabeth Fleming
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensington St Barnabas
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Gillian

Gillian Report 20 Mar 2011 15:16

So much information so quickly thanks folks Ill give you the family breakdown see if you can unravel my information sorry if it was a bit muddled it was about 3am when I posted and I was a bit tired here goes my father is Arthur Edward son of leonard the youngest of Thomas and Janes 8 sons , Im looking for Thomas family and Janes maiden name so I can trace her family. I did find a Thomas aged 8 in 1871 whos mother was down as Bridget aged 50 widow born in Ireland. I then found a Thomas Fleming in 1881 as a lodger at 5 portland rd and then another in 1891 married to a Jane so I probably got into a muddle fairly easily. Gill

Astra

Astra Report 20 Mar 2011 08:22

George was still alive in the 1891 census so this is probably his death

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Chandler George 49 Kensington 1a 185