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Please can you find Andrew Gatenby born 1875 Middlesbrough

Living North Bierley

Thank you

GATENBY, Andrew Head Married M 36 1875 Joiner Shop Building Middlesborough Yorks VIEW
GATENBY, Alice Wife Married
17 years F 34 1877 North Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
GATENBY, Charlie Son Single M 16 1895 Spinner Worsted Doffer North Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
GATENBY, Andrew Son M 13 1898 Spinner Worsted Doffer North Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
GATENBY, Nellie Daughter F 11 1900 Schooling North Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
GATENBY, Robert Son M 3 1908 North Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
GATENBY, Emmer Daughter F 1 (16 MONTHS) 1910 North Ormesby Norfolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26632 Reference:
RG14PN26632 RG78PN1535 RD497 SD6 ED9 SN82

Registration District:
North Bierley Sub District:
Shipley Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Shipley

Address:
1 Huntly St Shipley



10 children born -7 still alive

Just had a look at the image and Charlie is actually listed with the surname of Seley and not Gatenby

Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Gatenby Andrew Middlesbro' 9d 1115
Seley Sarah Alice Middlesbro' 9d 1115

1911 ??

BARTLE, Sarah Head Married
14 years F 32 1879 Laundry Ironer N K Probably Yorks VIEW
BARTLE, Emily Daughter F 14 1897 Spinner Worsted Shipley Yorks VIEW
BARTLE, Frank Son M 12 1899 Spinner School Part Ime Worsted Shipley Yorks VIEW
TARREN, Emily Boarder Single F 17 1894 Wool Comber Parkgate Yorks VIEW
GATINBY, Hanna Visitor Single F 16 1895 Spinner Worsted Middlesbrough Yorks VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26632 Reference:
RG14PN26632 RG78PN1535 RD497 SD6 ED9 SN90

Registration District:
North Bierley Sub District:
Shipley Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Shipley

Address:
12 Huntly St Shipley

Thank you Glitter Bay

I wondered where Hannah was. In 1901 Hannah is born in North Ormesby

No wonder we cant find people when they put North Ormesby in Norfolk. Does it say that on the image?

I think that Norfolk was written in a different hand writing and possibly added later

It looks like Charles Seley 1894/5 is living with his grandparents in 1901

1901 ?

Name: Andrew Gatenby
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Gatenby
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 207
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Gatenby 26
Alice Gatenby 24
Charles Seley 6
Hannah Gatenby 5
Andrew Gatenby 3
Samuel Swanson 40

Okay.

1901 census
John Seley 1856 Howdon Suffolk with wife Mary
There is a Charles Seley 1895 North Ormesby
I assumed they were all together in Ormesby

The Samuel Swanson age 40 you found living with Andrew was he a relative?

1881 census
Samuel Swenson 1858 Sunderland
Prasel wife 1863 South Church

living 47 Linthorpe Mews Middlesbrough


1881 census
John Seley 1856 Suffolk occ general lab.
Mary wife 1855 Liverpool
Mary Eliz dau. 1876 North Ormesby
Sarah A dau 1877 North Ormesby
Charles R Swensen bro in law 1857 Liverpool


1861 census
Swenson family with children the right age
Mary 1854
Charles 1856
Samuel H 1858
They are living Stockton Yarm

Can you give me those details please?

Thank you

This is the 1901 Census with John Seley

Name: John Seley
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Seley
Gender: Male
Where born: Hondon, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby

John Seley 45 Labourer (Platelayer)
Mary Seley 46 b.ca 1855, Liverpool, Lancashire
John C Seley 20
Walter Seley 16
George E Seley 14
Alfred Seley 8
Peter Turnbull 36 Boarder
Florence Turnbull 7 Boarder

Address:- 10 Telford St


All Seley children born N Ormesby



sylvia

Samuel Swanson in 1901

Name Age
Andrew Gatenby 26
Alice Gatenby 24
Charles Seley 6
Hannah Gatenby 5
Andrew Gatenby 3
Samuel Swanson 40 Boarder, b.ca 1861, Sunderland

Address:- 14 Telford St



NOTE:-- the record sheet says that Charles was "sister". The census image actualy says "son (illg)", and "illegitimate" is written in the last column of the entry.




sylvia

1881 Census

Name: John Seley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Seley
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: (10) Telford St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby

John Seley 25
Mary Seley 26 b.ca 1855, Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary Elz. Seley 5 b.ca 1876, North Ormesby, Yorkshire
Sarah A. Seley 4 b.ca 1877, North Ormesby
Charles R. Swensen 24 b.ca 1857, Liverpool Brother In Law, General Labourer




sylvia

Samuel Swenson


1881 Census

Name: Samuel Swenson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Prasel Swenson
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 47 Linthorpe Mews
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Labourer In Iron Wks

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

Samuel Swenson 23
Prasel Swenson 18 b.ca 1863, South Church << image shows this as in Durham



sylvia

?????? is this the 1861 Census??

1861 Census

Name: Samuel E Swenson <<<<<< it is H on the census image
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Grandson
Father's Name: Charles Swenson
Mother's Name: Mary Swenson
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Town: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Yarm
ED, institution, or vessel: 16

Samuel Richardson 51 b.ca 1810, Sunderland, Durham, House Carpenter
Lydia Richardson 51 b.ca 1810, Danby, Yorkshire
Charles Swenson 38 b.ca 1823, Sweden, Son in Law, Naturalized British Subject, Seaman but at Iron Works at present
Mary Swenson 28 n.ca 1833, Sunderland, Daughter
Charles Swenson 5 b.ca 1856, Liverpool, Lancashire, Grandson
Samuel E Swenson 3
Lydia S Swenson 6 MO b.ca 1860, North Ormsby, Yorkshire, Granddaughter
Mary Swenson 7 b.ca 1854, Liverpool, Granddaughter

Address:- 2 Friar Street




sylvia

1881 census
Samuel Swenson 1858 Sunderland
Prasel wife 1863 South Church




I'm sure you have this ..... but according to several Public Family trees on ancestry, PRASEL is really PRISCILLA

They all show Samuel Swenson married Priscilla Leckenby in 1880, possibly March


but I can't find it on freebmd


it was Prasel on the image, so I guess that is how the enumerator heard it!!!!



EDIT:- SUCCESS!!!


Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)

Leckonby Priscilla Middlesborough 9d 708
Swonson Samuel Middlesbro' 9d 708





sylvia

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from the new beta.familysearch site www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Priscilla Leckenby
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1862
baptism/christening place: AUCKLAND SAINT ANDREW,DURHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Leckenby
mother's name: Isabella
indexing project (batch) number: D19720-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: unknown




sylvia

One tree shows that Samuel and Prscilla had 4 children:-


Charles Thomas Swenson
1881 –

Elizabeth Florence Swenson
1883 –

Samuel Swainson
1885 –

Herbert Swenson
1888 – 1945



and then this story was attached to that tree:-

In 1891 The 3 boys were listed as living in the Middlesborough Union Workhouse as "Inmates". The oldest would have been 10 and the youngest three. From there they went to the Annie Macpherson Home. On March 29, 1894 the boys sailed to Canada aboard the SS Sarnia. They arrived in Halifax on April 9, 1894. They were British Home Children. The Canadian Department of Agriculture paid $2.00 for each child and they were sent to farms across Canada to serve as indentured labourers. They were separated and it is not known if they ever had contact with eachother again.



I don't understand this at all

Priscilla apparently died 1915, and Samuel in 1907.



out of interest, this is the 1891 Census for the boys

Name: Charles Thomas Swainson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: Linthorpe St Barnabas
Town: Linthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

.
.
.
Charles Thomas Swainson 10
Samuel Swainson 5
Herbert Swainson 4
.
.

The boys are not identified as Orphan, as are several others on the same page


and the surname is Swainson on the census image.



sylvia

Thank you Sylvia. Thats a great help
Here is the Samuel you found in 1861

birth mistranscribed Samuel Edward Sevenson 1857 dec qt Sunderland

It was very strange his children are in the workhouse when he and Priscilla didnt die till later.

I wonder where Samuel and Priscilla were in 1891. Also Priscilla in1901

Hi Quinsgran


I found this last night, but didn't post it, because I wasn't sure what you ahd and didn't have, and so I didn't want to do too much duplication

1891 Census

Name: Samuel Swenson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Tyne Dock South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: Caedmon of Whitby

Joseph Nelson Hursh 51 <<<< Master of the ship "Samanes"
Mary Jane Hursh 42
.
.
.
James Baxter 38 <<< Master of s/s Caedmon of Whitby
William Emmerson 42
David Jones 38
Richard Hogg 54
John Charles Avery 23
William Keigwin 48
Ann Keigwin 49
Thomas Johnson 41
Robert Emmerson 23
William Bell 21
Antona Johnson 30
Carl Hansen 39
Hedley Blckey 16
Samuel Swenson 32 <<<<< Fireman
.
.
.

the ship S/S "Caedmon of Whitby" seemingly had a HUGE crew .............. around 100 men!

AH ....... looked at the image, and it seems that the record page has combined the crews of several ships together!!!




so Samuel was on a ship at Tyne Dock on census night



1901 is needing some searching



sylvia

Priscilla turns up easily in 1901 .... will need a bit more searching for 1891



1901 Census

Name: Priscilla Swanson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Bp Auckland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

James Miller 39 b.ca 1862, Bristol, Gloucestershire, Widower, Brick yard Labourer
Priscilla Miller 10 b.ca 1891, Scotland
Eliza Miller 1 b.ca 1900, Hartlepool, Durham
Priscilla Swanson 39
Elizabeth Swanson 18 b.ca 1883, Middlesboro

Address:- 16 Emmerson St


Someone has added Alternative Information to Elizabeth Swanson:- [Elizabeth Miller], father James Miller

...... but I think this is in error. On the actual image, she is listed after Priscilla, and is shown as daughter ..... but I really think that this means daughter of Priscilla NOT daughter of James




sylvia