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glad you've got it all sorted Quinsgran!

Thank you Choccy. Herberts father is Samuel Swenson

still not sure who you are actually researching (sorry!) - the thread seems to have gone off on a tangent -

if you don't have it, here is Herbert (possibly) in 1901


1901 Census of Canada
Name: Herbert Swenson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 12
Birth Day & Month: 14 Nov
Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Adopted Son
Immigration Year: 1891
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Church Of England
Province: Ontario
District: Lanark (South/Sud)
District Number: 81
Sub-District: Bathurst
Sub-District Number: A-3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H Butler 42
Jane Butler 34
Florence B Butler 8
Thomas E Butler 5
Rebecca P Butler 1
Herbert Swenson


and his marriage -

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
Name: Herbert Swenson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Spouse Name: Mabel Cecil
Spouse's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 7 Mar 1913
Marriage Location: Lanark
Marriage County: Lanark
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_258



the original image is pretty poor, but it looks like he says his father was Charles Swenson

I it was a member on Ancestry who put the information on. I no longer subscribe so cant read the details

All I can see is its possibly Leckenby family tree or Spirit family tree

Only had a quick scan of what had gone before I must admit!

Priscilla doesn't mention where the boys are unfortunately ...

Thank you Choccy. Now isnt that interesting that Priscilla put her other childrens names.

If you have read earlier Sylvia found someone had said Priscillas boys Charles ,Herbert and Samuel were orphans in 1891 and were sent to Canada as home children in 1894

Lizzie -


HILL, John Hilton Head Married M 28 1883 Bricklayer Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
>>>>>HILL, Elizabeth Florence Wife Married
10 years F 26 1885 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, John William Son Single M 8 1903 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, Robert Walter Son Single M 6 1905 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, Anna Mary Daughter Single F 4 1907 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 2 1909 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29239 Reference:
RG14PN29239 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED1 SN18

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough East Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
43 Linthorpe Mews Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)




possibly this marriage (John Hilton mis-transcribed as John William ?)


Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
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GALLAGHER Annie Middlesbro' 9d 1189
>>>>>HILL John William Middlesbro' 9d 1189
Purvis William Middlesbro' 9d 1189
>>>>>SWAINSON Elizabeth Florence Middlesbro' 9d 1189

any good ?


1911

SWENSON, Priscilla Head Widow F 47 1864 South Church Bishop Auckland VIEW
SWENSON, Priscilla Daughter Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Clydesdale Scotland VIEW
SWENSON, Louisa Grandchild F 4 1907 Middlesbrough VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29241 Reference:
RG14PN29241 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED3 SN29

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough East Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
57 Wood St Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

married 25 years - 5 children born and still living

she actually names them all, with their ages and then crosses them out as obviously not now at home!

Charles, 28 born Middlesbrough - single - labourer
Samuel 24 Middlesbrough - single - farming
Herbert 22 Middlesbrough - single - farming
Lizzie 26 (married) Middlesbrough

am I stretching it???


Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)

McGee Francis J Swenson Middlesbro' 9d 1370
Swenson Louisa McGee Middlesbro' 9d 1370





sylvia

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)

Swenson Louisa Middlesbro' 9d 574

good idea


I can do the free search on 1911, but don't have the credits to look at either the transcript or image.



sylvia

Once again Sylvia to the rescue. I no longer have Ancestry so havnt been able to look for these.

I looked for Priscilla any age living in Middlesbrough on the 1911 census

Found Priscilla Swenson 1864
looking at who is living with her I found
Priscilla Swenson 1892
Lydia Swenson 1907

Im wondering if that is Priscilla Miller 1892 you found

There are 2 James Miller born 1863 living in Middlesbrough

I will ask for a 1911 census check to confirm

to round things out, I was trying to see if that John Baker and Cecikia in the 1891 were any relation of the family, but this is the only John W Baker and Cec* that I can find ....... but Beaminster is down on the borders of Dorset and Somerset!

I wonder if it is possible

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)

>>>>> Baker John William Beaminster 5a 765
>>>>> Mappeldoram Cecilia Beaminster 5a 765
Minshinten Sarah Beaminster 5a 765
Pearce John Alfred Beaminster 5a 765




sylvia

I cannot find Samuel in 1901 .... he may well have been at sea of coruse



and I cannot find Priscilla in 1891 .................... and I ahve also looked on the 1891 Scotland Census!


I wonder if the reason that the boys were put in the Barnardo's home was because Priscilla left Samuel, sent Elizabeth Florence to friends/ relatives, and went off to Scotland (or somewhere) with James Miller ???????


I don't have a sub for the 1911, but it might be interesting to see where Priscilla is!




sylvia

Elizabeth was named Elizabeth Florence Swenson

I wonder if this is her in 1891, minus Mum and Dad


1891 Census

Name: Florence E Swenson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Middlesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

John W Baker 32 b. Durham, Commercial Clerk
Cecilia A Baker 24 b. Middlesboro
Florence E Swenson 8

Address:- 72 Lr (??) Gladstone St


One of those trees on ancestry says she married in 1901:-

Dec 1901 Age: 18
Marriage to John Hilton Hill



This same tree has a second daughter for Priscilla

Priscilla Swenson 1892 in Clydesdale, Scotland


Look back at the 1901 census in the previous post ..................... Priscilla Miller, born ca 1891, Scotland






sylvia

Priscilla turns up easily in 1901 .... will need a bit more searching for 1891



1901 Census

Name: Priscilla Swanson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Bp Auckland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

James Miller 39 b.ca 1862, Bristol, Gloucestershire, Widower, Brick yard Labourer
Priscilla Miller 10 b.ca 1891, Scotland
Eliza Miller 1 b.ca 1900, Hartlepool, Durham
Priscilla Swanson 39
Elizabeth Swanson 18 b.ca 1883, Middlesboro

Address:- 16 Emmerson St


Someone has added Alternative Information to Elizabeth Swanson:- [Elizabeth Miller], father James Miller

...... but I think this is in error. On the actual image, she is listed after Priscilla, and is shown as daughter ..... but I really think that this means daughter of Priscilla NOT daughter of James




sylvia

Hi Quinsgran


I found this last night, but didn't post it, because I wasn't sure what you ahd and didn't have, and so I didn't want to do too much duplication

1891 Census

Name: Samuel Swenson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Tyne Dock South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: Caedmon of Whitby

Joseph Nelson Hursh 51 <<<< Master of the ship "Samanes"
Mary Jane Hursh 42
.
.
.
James Baxter 38 <<< Master of s/s Caedmon of Whitby
William Emmerson 42
David Jones 38
Richard Hogg 54
John Charles Avery 23
William Keigwin 48
Ann Keigwin 49
Thomas Johnson 41
Robert Emmerson 23
William Bell 21
Antona Johnson 30
Carl Hansen 39
Hedley Blckey 16
Samuel Swenson 32 <<<<< Fireman
.
.
.

the ship S/S "Caedmon of Whitby" seemingly had a HUGE crew .............. around 100 men!

AH ....... looked at the image, and it seems that the record page has combined the crews of several ships together!!!




so Samuel was on a ship at Tyne Dock on census night



1901 is needing some searching



sylvia

Thank you Sylvia. Thats a great help
Here is the Samuel you found in 1861

birth mistranscribed Samuel Edward Sevenson 1857 dec qt Sunderland

It was very strange his children are in the workhouse when he and Priscilla didnt die till later.

I wonder where Samuel and Priscilla were in 1891. Also Priscilla in1901

One tree shows that Samuel and Prscilla had 4 children:-


Charles Thomas Swenson
1881 –

Elizabeth Florence Swenson
1883 –

Samuel Swainson
1885 –

Herbert Swenson
1888 – 1945



and then this story was attached to that tree:-

In 1891 The 3 boys were listed as living in the Middlesborough Union Workhouse as "Inmates". The oldest would have been 10 and the youngest three. From there they went to the Annie Macpherson Home. On March 29, 1894 the boys sailed to Canada aboard the SS Sarnia. They arrived in Halifax on April 9, 1894. They were British Home Children. The Canadian Department of Agriculture paid $2.00 for each child and they were sent to farms across Canada to serve as indentured labourers. They were separated and it is not known if they ever had contact with eachother again.



I don't understand this at all

Priscilla apparently died 1915, and Samuel in 1907.



out of interest, this is the 1891 Census for the boys

Name: Charles Thomas Swainson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: Linthorpe St Barnabas
Town: Linthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

.
.
.
Charles Thomas Swainson 10
Samuel Swainson 5
Herbert Swainson 4
.
.

The boys are not identified as Orphan, as are several others on the same page


and the surname is Swainson on the census image.



sylvia

??????????

from the new beta.familysearch site www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Priscilla Leckenby
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1862
baptism/christening place: AUCKLAND SAINT ANDREW,DURHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Leckenby
mother's name: Isabella
indexing project (batch) number: D19720-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: unknown




sylvia