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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Mar 2011 21:22

Elizabeth was named Elizabeth Florence Swenson

I wonder if this is her in 1891, minus Mum and Dad


1891 Census

Name: Florence E Swenson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Middlesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

John W Baker 32 b. Durham, Commercial Clerk
Cecilia A Baker 24 b. Middlesboro
Florence E Swenson 8

Address:- 72 Lr (??) Gladstone St


One of those trees on ancestry says she married in 1901:-

Dec 1901 Age: 18
Marriage to John Hilton Hill



This same tree has a second daughter for Priscilla

Priscilla Swenson 1892 in Clydesdale, Scotland


Look back at the 1901 census in the previous post ..................... Priscilla Miller, born ca 1891, Scotland






sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Mar 2011 21:40

I cannot find Samuel in 1901 .... he may well have been at sea of coruse



and I cannot find Priscilla in 1891 .................... and I ahve also looked on the 1891 Scotland Census!


I wonder if the reason that the boys were put in the Barnardo's home was because Priscilla left Samuel, sent Elizabeth Florence to friends/ relatives, and went off to Scotland (or somewhere) with James Miller ???????


I don't have a sub for the 1911, but it might be interesting to see where Priscilla is!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Mar 2011 21:47

to round things out, I was trying to see if that John Baker and Cecikia in the 1891 were any relation of the family, but this is the only John W Baker and Cec* that I can find ....... but Beaminster is down on the borders of Dorset and Somerset!

I wonder if it is possible

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)

>>>>> Baker John William Beaminster 5a 765
>>>>> Mappeldoram Cecilia Beaminster 5a 765
Minshinten Sarah Beaminster 5a 765
Pearce John Alfred Beaminster 5a 765




sylvia

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Mar 2011 02:18

Once again Sylvia to the rescue. I no longer have Ancestry so havnt been able to look for these.

I looked for Priscilla any age living in Middlesbrough on the 1911 census

Found Priscilla Swenson 1864
looking at who is living with her I found
Priscilla Swenson 1892
Lydia Swenson 1907

Im wondering if that is Priscilla Miller 1892 you found

There are 2 James Miller born 1863 living in Middlesbrough

I will ask for a 1911 census check to confirm

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Mar 2011 04:17

good idea


I can do the free search on 1911, but don't have the credits to look at either the transcript or image.



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Mar 2011 04:27

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)

Swenson Louisa Middlesbro' 9d 574

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Mar 2011 04:31

am I stretching it???


Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)

McGee Francis J Swenson Middlesbro' 9d 1370
Swenson Louisa McGee Middlesbro' 9d 1370





sylvia

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Mar 2011 08:14



any good ?


1911

SWENSON, Priscilla Head Widow F 47 1864 South Church Bishop Auckland VIEW
SWENSON, Priscilla Daughter Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Clydesdale Scotland VIEW
SWENSON, Louisa Grandchild F 4 1907 Middlesbrough VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29241 Reference:
RG14PN29241 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED3 SN29

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough East Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
57 Wood St Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

married 25 years - 5 children born and still living

she actually names them all, with their ages and then crosses them out as obviously not now at home!

Charles, 28 born Middlesbrough - single - labourer
Samuel 24 Middlesbrough - single - farming
Herbert 22 Middlesbrough - single - farming
Lizzie 26 (married) Middlesbrough


Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Mar 2011 08:28



Lizzie -


HILL, John Hilton Head Married M 28 1883 Bricklayer Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
>>>>>HILL, Elizabeth Florence Wife Married
10 years F 26 1885 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, John William Son Single M 8 1903 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, Robert Walter Son Single M 6 1905 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, Anna Mary Daughter Single F 4 1907 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW
HILL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 2 1909 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29239 Reference:
RG14PN29239 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED1 SN18

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough East Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
43 Linthorpe Mews Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)




possibly this marriage (John Hilton mis-transcribed as John William ?)


Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

GALLAGHER Annie Middlesbro' 9d 1189
>>>>>HILL John William Middlesbro' 9d 1189
Purvis William Middlesbro' 9d 1189
>>>>>SWAINSON Elizabeth Florence Middlesbro' 9d 1189



Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Mar 2011 09:10

Thank you Choccy. Now isnt that interesting that Priscilla put her other childrens names.

If you have read earlier Sylvia found someone had said Priscillas boys Charles ,Herbert and Samuel were orphans in 1891 and were sent to Canada as home children in 1894

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Mar 2011 10:17



Only had a quick scan of what had gone before I must admit!

Priscilla doesn't mention where the boys are unfortunately ...


Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Mar 2011 10:22

I it was a member on Ancestry who put the information on. I no longer subscribe so cant read the details

All I can see is its possibly Leckenby family tree or Spirit family tree

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Mar 2011 10:32



still not sure who you are actually researching (sorry!) - the thread seems to have gone off on a tangent -

if you don't have it, here is Herbert (possibly) in 1901


1901 Census of Canada
Name: Herbert Swenson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 12
Birth Day & Month: 14 Nov
Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Adopted Son
Immigration Year: 1891
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Church Of England
Province: Ontario
District: Lanark (South/Sud)
District Number: 81
Sub-District: Bathurst
Sub-District Number: A-3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H Butler 42
Jane Butler 34
Florence B Butler 8
Thomas E Butler 5
Rebecca P Butler 1
Herbert Swenson


and his marriage -

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
Name: Herbert Swenson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Spouse Name: Mabel Cecil
Spouse's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 7 Mar 1913
Marriage Location: Lanark
Marriage County: Lanark
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_258



the original image is pretty poor, but it looks like he says his father was Charles Swenson










Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Mar 2011 10:43

Thank you Choccy. Herberts father is Samuel Swenson

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Mar 2011 21:01

glad you've got it all sorted Quinsgran!