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I don't know if anyone could help me please, but I am trying to trace birth records for three people - Eliza, James and Frederick - as per the below;

Eliza(beth) Emily Bambridge: b.c.1874 possibly in Peckham / d.1097 (daughter of Albert Bambridge)

who married William Thomas Burt (b. 1871 Kensington / d.1900 Wandsworth) in Islington

who had children (more than likely born in London)
b.c. 1898 James (probably Camberwell in Sep Qtr 1898)
b.c. 1900 Frederick (no leads)

Can anyone with more experience provide any leads please?

Many thanks in advance.

Helen

Helen where have you looked? Hav eyou checked births on here;

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Emily Bambridge Name: Elizabeth Emily Bambridge
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Braintree
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 410

Hi RutlandBelle

Yes - I have look one the site you mention, but came to no firm conclusions .. and the likelihood of me getting to a Records Office in the near future is slim.

Do you have any other useful websites / knowledge I could tap into? I am keen to find these 3 myself, butu am lacking in the know how ta the moment - it's only my 2nd month in to all this!!

Thanks, H

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Eliza Emily Bambridge Name: Eliza Emily Bambridge
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: William Thomas Burt
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Apr 1897
Parish: St Mark, Tollington Park
County: London
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Albert Bambridge Deceased Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Burt Deceased Labourer

Address for both of them 40 Alexander Rd.********

Helen are you saying that William Burt died 1900 and Elizabeth when??? (you have a typo error as it says 1097)

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Thomas Burt Name: William Thomas Burt
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Eliza Emily Bambridge
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Apr 1897
Parish: St Mark, Tollington Park
County: London
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Thomas Burt
Spouse Father Name: Albert Bambridge

Original says he was a postman, his father deceased, a labourer, her father, deceased, a labourer. Address for both was 40 Alexander Rd. Witnesses James Stallwoor? and Rose bambridge.

Greats lead Mel - thanks.

Should the death be 1907??

Forgot to say witnesses were James Stallmoor and Rose Bambridge.

RutlandBelle - doh!

Eliza died in 1907, I believe of Meningitis and I am guessing it would have been near Thornham Magna / Wickham Skeith in Suffolk (where all my family are from). Eliza moved to Suffolk following the death of William (at which point I can find no trace of the children!), she remarried in 1902 to Benjamin Blake (my GG Grandfather).

I have death records for William Burt - Jul / Aug / Sept 1900 Wandsworth.

MadBull - thanks for the info ... you haven't stumbled on birth records at all in your search have you?

Mel - can I ask a silly question pls (yes, I am a newbie!) - where do you find the witnesses from?

when and where was BenjaminBlake born and I'll have a look on 1911 census to see if the children are with him

RutlandBelle - Benjamin Blake was born in Thornham Magna on 20.04.1875. He married twice that I am aware of - once to Eliza in 1902 and then to Ethel Lummis (Nee Davey) in 1907. I have the 1911 Census Record, this is where I found that Benjamin and Eliza had had 2 children - Violet and Cissy .... it's Eliza's former life that causing me the confusion as James and Frederick do not show as being with Eliza in the 1901 Census (where Eliza is living with her sister Jane in Wickham Skeith). History hey!!!!

The names of the witnesses are on the original of the marriage record on London Parish Records on Ancestry.

I looked up the marriage and saw the actual form with all the details on it. thats how I found the witnesses.

Am having trouble finding Elizabeth before her marriage though.

so can I ask how you know about James and Frederick.?

I can't find any records of James and Frederick, neither births nor census.

James and Frederick are verbal leads and liekwise I am struggling to find anything for Eliza before her marriage.

I am trying to find out of there is any truth in the two children, but have so far drawn a blank. But being so new I didn't know if it was me being blond!

Thanks for all your help guys!

Now this is not definate but here is a death of an Albert at 38 so I wonder if the mother married again and the children are under her new married name??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 38
District: Dunmow
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 329