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My great granny MABEL VARCOE (b 1886)married William Biddick Stone(b1886) from St Mewan Sticker in 1909 I believe. According to my Dad's imperfect recollection he was then killed (possibly by riding a motorbike into a herd of cattle.) In the 1911 census Mabel has a 10 month old son called the same name. In 1913 she had my granny Thora May but there is no father's name on the certificate. I thought this meant that WBS must have died between the 1911 census and my granny's conception around April 1912.But I cant find it. Was he in fact still alive when his wife had Thora May? Is that perhaps why I cant find his death in the expected place? I find it really hard to find the death records! On top of this WBS junior also died young (my father thinks in a shooting accident) but don't know which year. I cant find him either as I dont know which year to look.

Could anybody help me?

Also is it likely that Thora May's middle name might reflect the biological father or would it all be kept hush hush?

Thanks to anyone who can help

Sarah McQueen Nee Devonshire

is this her?

Mabel Varcoe

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1886 — St Stephens, Cornwall
residence: St Stephen In Brannel, Cornwall, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Mabel Varcoe
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 15
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: St Stephens, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: St Austell
sub-district: Grampound
ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen In Brannel
civil parish: St Stephen In Brannel
county: St Austell, Grampound, St Stephen In Brannel, Cornwall

William Biddick Stone

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Joanna Trevanna

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Martha Biddick Stone
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Jul 1833
baptism/christening place: WESLEYAN,SAINT AUSTELL,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
birth date: 15 Jul 1833
father's name: William Biddick Stone
mother's name: Joanna Trevanna
indexing project (batch) number: C06536-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 590674

William B Stone

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1887 — St Mewan, Cornwall
residence: St Ewe, Cornwall, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: William B Stone
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 14
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: St Mewan, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: St Austell
sub-district: Mevagissey
ecclesiastical parish: St Ewe
civil parish: St Ewe
county: St Austell, Mevagissey, St Ewe, Cornwall

Great - thanks - boy aren't you quick!!

Yes that is her and him...

I didn't have the parents of WBS senior that is wonderful thankyou very much Ann of Green Gables! You are a star!

Still no info/date about either WBS' death- it does seem much harder with deaths

I have the birth cert of Thora May 1913 illegitimate- does that illegitimacy get recorded anywhere?

Thanks again!

Looks like the WBS you have who's married to joanna is the father of my WBS and that Martha BS is his sister- fab!

don't think it would be recorded as being illegitimate - I'm useless at finding deaths - hopefully someone else will come on here and find that - fingers crossed!!

Martha Biddick Stone

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 15 Jul 1833
residence: Cornwall, England
parents: William Biddick Stone, Joanna Trevanna

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Martha Biddick Stone
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Jul 1833
baptism/christening place: WESLEYAN,SAINT AUSTELL,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
birth date: 15 Jul 1833
father's name: William Biddick Stone
mother's name: Joanna Trevanna
indexing project (batch) number: C06536-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 590674

Do you think the repetition of the name William Biddick Stone signifies the same family?

Joanna Trevena

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Cornwall, England
parents: John Trevena, Dorcas

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Joanna Trevena
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Sep 1814
baptism/christening place: ST EWE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: John Trevena
mother's name: Dorcas
indexing project (batch) number: C02183-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 246792

I keep thinking that surely two tragic deaths in the family would have been in a newspaper somewhere too

Dorcas Trevenna

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: St. Ewe, Cornwall, England
parents: John Trevenna, Dorcas

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Dorcas Trevenna
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 31 Jul 1809
baptism/christening place: St. Ewe, Cornwall, England
father's name: John Trevenna
mother's name: Dorcas
indexing project (batch) number: I04812-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595533

found these - may be a connection

Dwelling: Trescowe Cottage
Census Place: St Mabyn, Cornwall, England
Source: PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2290 Folio 26 Page 15
William BIDDICK M 40 M St Breock, Cornwall
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Lab
Ann BIDDICK M 32 F Egloshayle, Cornwall
Rel: Wife
Occ: Ag Labs Wife
Fanny BIDDICK 15 F Egloshayle, Cornwall
Rel: Dautr
Occ: Ag Labs Dautr
William BIDDICK 4 M Egloshayle, Cornwall
Rel: Son
Occ: Ag Labs Son
Thomas G. BIDDICK 2 M St Breock, Cornwall
Rel: Son
Occ: Ag Labs Son
Josiah BIDDICK 1 M St Mabyn, Cornwall
Rel: Son
Occ: Ag Labs Son

and these


Dwelling: Fenterlarrick
Census Place: St Mabyn, Cornwall, England
Source: PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2290 Folio 25 Page 14
Luke BIDDICK M 35 M St Issey, Cornwall
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Lab
Elizabeth BIDDICK M 29 F St Minver, Cornwall
Rel: Wife
Occ: Ag Labs Wife
Mary Eliz. BIDDICK 11 F St Endellion, Cornwall
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar
Cordelia BIDDICK 8 F St Endellion, Cornwall
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar
Sarah L. BIDDICK 2 F St Mabyn, Cornwall
Rel: Daughter

these two sites look interesting - both have Biddick and Stone in them - I reckon somwhere along the line a Stone married a Biddick and that is why Biddick is a middle name for the children

Cornwall Online Census Project, transcript of Piece RG11/2295
34,Tregonna,1,John Williams,Head,M,45,,Mining Engineer,Padstow Cornwall,, ..... 28,,1,William Biddick,Head,W,61,,Builder And Joiner,St Issey Cornwall,, ..... 67 ,Tredinnick,1,George Williams Stone,Head,M,63,,Farmer,Lanivet Cornwall,, ...

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Biddick Family | Rundell Biddick Association
Married: Petra Nellie Hawkins, Louisa Spalding Nasmith, Ann Drew Stone ... Married: John Williams. 3. Peter Biddick: Oct 4, 1821 – Mar 17, 1878 (Buried Platteville, WI) ... John Biddick: 1829 – Sep 7, 1910 (Buried St. Erth, Cornwall ) ...

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Biddick Family
Matthew Biddick II (1790 –Jan 20, 1869) – Mary Tonkin (1791-Mar 11, 1872)
(Their children were born on Trewince farm, St. Issey, Cornwall, England)

1. Matthew Biddick III: Mar 20, 1817 – Apr 23, 1897 (Buried Mifflin, WI)
Married: Petra Nellie Hawkins, Louisa Spalding Nasmith, Ann Drew Stone

Thnaks for that!

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I agree with the idea that Biddick represents a female Biddick marrying a stone but keeping the name alive
Thanks again

Must go to bed
Sarah

Great thanks for that annoyingly both deaths were after 1910