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hi and sorry to ask for more help but this is another of my `blanks`. i would like some help tracing anything at all on the REEVES family please. james baker reeves was born in 1848- lambeth - married as a batchelor in st. saviour, southwark, london -o/n/d/ 1889 to sarah anne norton -(maiden name oborne born c 1868.wilts.james was known at this time as a `castermonger`??their address on the 1891 census was 10 arden street, battersea.
so i would really like to find anything about his at all and especially why he dropped using his surname when he married-in place of using his MIDDLE name?? i have no eveidence but heard he may have died in lambeth around age 57?

Do you mean he stopped using the Surname Reeves after he married, as he married as Reeves:

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
Davis Annie St. Saviour 1d 339
NORTON Sarah Ann St Saviour Southwark 1d 339
NYE Henry Walter St Saviour Southwark 1d 339
NYE Henry Walton St Saviour Southwark 1d 339
Reeves James Baker St. Saviour 1d 339

sorry i meant that he dropped the surname reeves after they married as you will see they called them selves and the kids by `baker`

It's costermonger, a dealer ,hawker,I reckon he was a wheeler-dealer who
changed his name to keep one step ahead of the bailifs
he split from his wife, so maybe he had ladies chasing him !!

1891 for info - if he married as a batchelor, were the older children Sarah's from her previous marriage?:

1891 England Census
about James Baker
Name: James Baker
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
James Baker 43
Sarah Baker 34
James Baker 13
Thomas Baker 11
Willie Baker 9
Jessie Baker 6
Catherine Baker 1

I cannot find a marriage for a James Baker Reeves in 1847/8

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about James Baker Reeves Name: James Baker Reeves
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Norton
Spouse Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Nov 1889
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Baker Reeves

Yes Sarah was a widow on the marriage.

Her father is Henry John Osbourne deceased.

James father also deceased.

She signed and he put his mark X. The witnesses were George Bailey and Fanny Bailey.

yes from her previouse marriage when they were all nortons. that husband died young at age 35 in 1886 -she then married our boy reeves 3 years later in 1889

lindsey you have a wsoh!

Baptism....

Name: Eliza May Baker Reeves
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1892
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1892
Father's Name: James Reeves ...........general dealer
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Reeves
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary the Less
Borough: Lambeth

Family lived at 13 Woodgate Street, Nine Elms.

Gwyn

Have you found him on any census before 1891?

I can find a James Baker with a father John and they are costermongers. This is that James in 1881:

1881 England Census
about James Baker
Name: James Baker
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Lodger Son (Lodger's Son)
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Queens Place
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Dealer

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Pritchard 50
Ann Baker 50
James Baker 37
George Cooling 14

so does anyone know which of those surnames i should rightly have had? my grandad was the james frederick norton/baker-the son of the first marriage

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Eliza May Baker Reeves Name: Eliza May Baker Reeves
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1892
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1892
Father's Name: James Reeves GENERAL DEALER
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Reeves
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary the Less
Borough: Lambeth


Address 13 Woodgate St, Nine Elms

Any sign of them in 1901 or 1911?

Maryb

didnt find him on any census before the marriage one-especially as i didnt know which surname

eliza is a child i disnt know they had

Is this his Christening??

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about James Frederick Norton Name: James Frederick Norton
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1878
Baptism Date: 28 Aug 1878
Father's Name: Charles Edward Norton
Mother's Name: Sarah Anne Norton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary the Less
Borough: Lambeth

Address 9 Barret St and fathers occ. Labourer

gwyn in kent--what does the poor law mean where you found this family?

mel fg yes that looks to be him

I think that is a general reference to the parish church (or sometimes poor law union on some entries) where the baptism took place.

Gwyn