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You don't want to be sending me PMs ... makes me irritable. ;)

Address in 1901, I'd closed the image but still had the search result tab open, fortunately!

Multi-household dwelling, have to go back to previous page ...

26 Brook Street.

Ethel shows no occupation, btw.

I too have found discrepancies with the spelling of Nixon (a common surname) e.g.Nixen. It makes life difficult but oh so rewarding when you find someone.

I should have mentioned they're all unrelated boarders except for Anton and Emily, who I assumed was Ethel's grandmother. ;)

Couldn't see a Prince-Nixon or Anton-Nixon marriage on a very quick search at FreeBMd, but the spelling of his name, both surname and given name, may have varied considerably.

JaneyCanuck, This is interesting. Emily Nixon b.1833 was Ethel Lingwood's grandmother. I don't recognise any of the other names but I will certainly investigate Anton Prince. Emily had Susan (Ethel's mother), Sarah J. (who never married) and another daughter called Elizabeth who was a general servant living away from home in 1881 (aged 20). Perhaps she is the daughter who married Herr Prince. I will certainly investigate that line of enquiry. Thank you.

I have found them in 1901 thank you, living in Edmonton. Unfortunately, there are a couple of transcription errors but I have cross referenced all the names listed and other information that I have confirms the correct address for the family. One of the errors is that Charles Henry's wife was Susan and not Sarah as transcribed.

Ethel Violet does not appear with the family in 1901 and so I have yet to locate her but I believe she was in service and living away from the family.

Well fine, Mike. ;)

1901

Name: Ethel Lingwood
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Lambeth

Anton Prince 37
> Emily Nixon 67
Ethel Lingwood 16
Aida Mays 23
William Atkins 46
John Foster 23


Emily Nixon is mother-in-law of Anton Prince.

Anton Prince is Head, married, Hotel Waiter, born Germany (German Subject), whose wife seems not to be at home.

Still need to find the family in 1901

Unfortunately the one posted is for Charles W and Susan J instead of Charles Henry and Susan.

Oooer! Now you're getting scary. I didn't mean to start a cyber war of words over my request.

To Bruce: if you have something to say to me, perhaps you would send me a PM. I don't really give a flying * how things "seem" to you, whoever you might be (I don't recall seeing you helping on anything in nearly four years on these boards, while Mike, Jax and I and the rest work together daily, including on this thread that you seem to have made no contribution to). I strongly suggest that you refrain from this kind of negative personal commentary about other members, and I recommend that you delete that post or edit it to remove that commentary, or I shall ask that it be done for you.

Back to our regularly scheduled conversation, now!

The best ones are conversations, for sure. And most of us have suspicious minds after so much of this -- children born to unmarried parents (I lose track of them in my tree, although my own direct ancestors seem to have waited for the marriage to be born), people with fake names for a variety of reasons (I have two of them just in my own recent tree, my dad's father and my mother's grandfather) -- that we know just where to start looking, and what for. ;)

And very often it works just like clockwork: X finds something, Y says hmmmm, Z runs with what Y finds, all madly off in all directions til one gets there ... and there you go, in five minutes, Bob is your uncle ... or at least your parent's step-sibilng. ;)

Oh, and then you get an error message when you try to post ...

Thanks to you too JaneyCanuck. I realise now that there was a "conversation" going on between you and the other contributors. I certainly didn't intend to leave you out of the thank you acknowledgements and hope I didn't cause offence.

It never ceases to amaze me how well the people on this site work together to help although I'm sure that there's a little bit of internal rivalry going on! As a relative newcomer, it feels to me like you are all members of a help group "talking" to each other across the internet airwaves and I am very grateful for the help given to me personally.

It's called teamwork, Pamela .................... you didn't give us the necessary information about the parents' marriage, so I went and found it ...................... Mike matched a birth to that information before I had a chance to come at it from the other end and search for an Ethel Violet birth that matched up with one of the possible brides ..................

Had you just given us the mother's name to start with .......... ! or searched for the birth under that surname. You'll know for next time now.

Thank you so much Jax. This all ties up. Pam

1891 census - household transcription
Person: LINGWOOD, Ethel V
Address: 3, Nursery Cottages, Woolmer Road, Edmonton



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LINGWOOD, Charles Hy Head Married M 29 1862 Leather Cloth Worker
Bayswater VIEW
LINGWOOD, Susan Wife Married F 26 1865
Staines
Middlesex VIEW
LINGWOOD, Ethel V Daughter F 5 1886
Staines
Middlesex VIEW
LINGWOOD, Susan I Daughter F 3 1888
Edmonton
Middlesex VIEW
LINGWOOD, Lilly I Daughter F 2 1889
Edmonton
Middlesex VIEW
LINGWOOD, Alice M Daughter F 0 (11M) 1891
Edmonton
Middlesex VIEW
BUTTERFIELD, Arthur Visitor Married M 20 1871 Labourer At Floorcloth Works
Staines
Middlesex VIEW
BUTTERFIELD, Emily S Visitor Married F 17 1874
Staines
Middlesex VIEW

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Decided to take the census from FMP at least it saved me trying to work out what the address said

Jax

Do you have an address for the family in1891? You have also just confirmed some research I was doing working backwards from 1911 census. 10 children are recorded as being born: 6 living, 4 died. I have been painstakingly cross referencing Lingwood births and deaths to try to find those children who died. Lily I. (for Isabella) was one possibility. You have now confirmed that for me as she is on your list in 1891. Thank you. Pam

BTW there is a tree on ancestry with her photo plus more details.

Sorry Lindsey but you have the wrong family. Susan Nixon married Charles Henry Lingwood not Charles William. Thanks anyway

You're welcome

Thanks everyone especially Mike who has hit the nail on the head! Her mother was Susan Nixon from Staines who married Charles Henry Lingwood in December 1885. I presume that as her surname is Nixon, the father's name wasn't stated on the birth certificate. Thanks again.

guess they had her baptised again

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Ethel Lingwood
Name: Ethel Lingwood
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 19 july 1886 ???
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1887
Father's Name: Charles William Lingwood
Mother's Name: Susan Jane Lingwood
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington