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1861

Name: Thomas Williams
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Llonglly, Breconshire, Wales
[Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales]

Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Bedwelty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Williams 26
Martha Williams 25
Margaret Williams 6
Elizabeth Williams 2

1871

Name: Jane Williams
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Williams
Mother's Name: Martha Williams
Gender: Female
Where born: Millwall, London, England
Civil parish: Dalton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Barrow
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Williams 36
Martha Williams 35
Margaret Williams 17 born Wales
Elizabeth Williams 13 born Wales
Thomas Williams 6
Jane Williams 3
Louisa Williams 1

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
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WILLIAMS Phoebe Priscilla Ulverston 8e 813
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Births Sep 1870 (>99%)
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Williams Sarah Louisa Poplar 1c 653

1891

Name: Beatrice M Williams
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Williams
Mother's Name: Martha L Williams
Gender: Female
Where born: Barrow in F, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Barrow
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Barrow In Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Williams 56 born BRECKNOCK (shire)
Martha L Williams 55 born EBBW VALE, Mon.
Sarah L Williams 20 b. Millwall, Middx
David E Williams 16
Phoebe P Williams 15
Beatrice M Williams 10

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WILLIAMS Beatrice Martha Barrow Barrow DAVIES B/17/20


If you plan to erect a new headstone, the purchase of Susanna's birth cert for £9.25 would be very worthwhile................

If you don't already have it - Beatrice's birth cert would give you Martha's maiden name, which would then help you find her marriage to Thomas.

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Births Dec 1880
WILLIAMS Beatrice Martha - Barrow F. 8e 773

Wonder if this is PERISLA ??
Birthplace just says Lancashire on 1881


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Births Dec 1874
Williams Priscilla - Manchester 8d 270

Forget the Welsh birth - this could be her born Middlesex....


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Births Jun 1868 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

WILLIAMS Susannah Jane - Poplar 1c 693

Wonder if Jane is actually Susannah Jane ??

If so she was born Middlesex

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Household:1881

Thomas WILLIAMS Head M Male 46 Monmouth, England Labourer Foundry
Martha WILLIAMS Wife M Female 45 Monmouth, England
John Thos. WILLIAMS Son Male 16 Middlesex, England Assist Provision Dealer
>>>>>>Jane WILLIAMS Daur Female 12 Middlesex, England Scholar
Louisa WILLIAMS Daur Female 10 Middlesex, England Scholar
Edwin WILLIAMS Son Male 6 Lancashire, England Scholar
Perisla WILLIAMS Daur Female 5 Lancashire, England Scholar
>>>>>>>Beatrice WILLIAMS Daur Female 5 m Lancashire, England


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Dwelling 4 Dundonald St
Census Place Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England

Thats amazing thank you

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Deaths Mar 1882
Williams Susannah Jane - 13 - Barrow F. 8e 591



Can't see a birth for Susannah in Barrow

If she is Beatrice's sister it's worth noting that her mother Martha was born in Wales.

Maybe check this one out ..
.................. EDIT : NO DON'T THINK SO.

Births Mar 1870
Williams Susanna Jane - Brecknock 11b 116

Ah right, that may be whats happened here then.
Hopefully ill stumble across her.
Thanks for all your help

Just for reference - I have an ancestors grave and on discovering who else was buried there ( not mentioned on the headstone) I found that there was no connection - I was told they were simply neighbours .and it was probably cheaper to use an existing grave than to buy a new plot.

well i need to know who she is for two reasons,
Both my Nana and Grandad are burried in a grave that doesnt have their names on.
I need to find the details of who is on the grave first before we can add them to it and get a new head stone.
When we asked at the cemetery they couldnt find the information?
So ive had to resort to some good old research, which I seem to mainly be hitting walls with.
Also i cannot find where she would fit in to my tree.
I have a feeling that she may have been Martha Williams and Thomas Williams daughter, and the confusion is due to the corrode on the stone.
They are the parents of Beatrice Martha Williams which someone has already confirmed.
But again cant find Susannah

Well, the records indicate otherwise................

What made you latch on to this person?

At the moment, you are not giving any reason for your train of thought, so helping you is difficult, to say the least

its in barrow in furness, it says her name as Susannah Jane only
I have photos of the headstone but struggle to read it
I assumed she may be an ostell as Beatrice married Thomas so assumed she was their child.

Where is the graveyard?

Is Susannah's the only name on the headstone?

Is there any other wording in relation to her?

What led you to think that her surname was Ostell?

no my grandfather was Thomas Ostell and his wife Beatrice

So Susannah aged 12 could be ANY relation, or none.


The burial records for the church/ cemetery should be able to tell you who is interred in the grave.

I am limited on information that i can provide, it is a grave stone that i am going from and cannot add my grandmother on to it until i can find the details for who is in the grave already, but Susannah seems to be a mystery, i cant find any mention of her anywhere.
Her surname is not mentioned on the grave, i think this is an impossibility.
thank you all for your help :)