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i will order that to thanks and i will let you no wants going out ?

That's a good start -- now hope it can be found!

The marriage certificate could still be useful.

This is where to order it, by the way:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

i have asked for his births certificate today so will that do ? but thanks for you help jeney

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/simmons/thread/1262923
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Keith -- no one here has access to birth records in the Turks and Caicos Islands.

It has been explained what to do.

Get Cornelius's marriage certificate to see what it says for his age and father's name. (He may not have given a father's name, but you need to know what it does say.)

It's even possible that if he had a brother or sister, they were a witness to his marriage.

Once you have the marriage certificate you can come back to this thread and post the information from it in case there is anything there that would help find more in English records.

Then enquire about having a search for his birth in the Turks and Caicos Islands. No one can do that for you. You can also ask there about having a search for births with the same parents.

I gave up and bought a few credits so I could view the image on Ancestry as below. It is the right person. The image lists him as aged 21 and a seaman. He came from the Turks Island and his nearest relative from where he came from is listed as Father Anderson. I have the actual image of the record taken on the ship Keith if you want to send me a pm (private message) (Click on my name) I can email it to you

Name: Cornelius Simmons
Birth: abt 1898 - British West Indies
Arrival: Jul 1919 - St Albans, Vermont, United States
Residence: British West Indies


In addtion this could be him - the record states that the first finger to the second joint on his left hand was missing

Name: Cornelius Simmons
Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1925
Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Place of Origin: West Indian (Coloured)
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York

There appear to be a number of records of various voyages when he is a sailor including the one below that lists him as a sailor with 10 years service in 1929. He is also listed as 5 ft and 6 inches high and weighing 147 pounds. He must have travelled widely. The last voyage I have found lists him as sailing into New York from Argentina, South America in early 1937

Name: Cornelius Simmons
Arrival Date: 1 Mar 1929
Birth Year: abt 1900
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: West Indian (Native American)
Port of Departure: Manchester, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City Of Kimberley

what you looking on ? just all i no he got on a boat from the usa and got off at newport around 1919

I know this isn't your man, but could be a sibling?

U.S. Virgin Islands Census, 1835-1911 (Danish Period)
Immigration & Emigration Books

Name: Richardo Simmonds
Age: 12
Cenus Year: 1911

Name: Richardo Simmonds
[Richardo Simmons]
Father: Cornelius Simmonds
Birth: abt 1899 - location
Residence: 1911 - Virgin Islands, United States

......my subscription doesn't allow my to view so can't see what the record says!

Maybe this site can help:-

http://www.certifiedcertificatesuk.com/certificate-information-overseas.aspx

This site covers The Turks & Cacos Islands and they may be able to do research for you, but you will have to pay.

The first thing to do is to buy the marriage cert. to make sure of his date of birth and to find out the name of his father. The more info you have the better chance of finding the correct birth.

hope so one can help me ?

Name: Phyllis Joan Simmons
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1984
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: South Glamorgan
Inferred County: South Glamorgan
Volume: 28
Page: 1383

The Turks and Caicos Islands were formerly part of the British West Indies so this could very well confirm the date he went from the islands to the states prior to coming to the UK. However I don't have access to the site to check the detials.

Can someone else help?

all i no is he is from turks and calcos and my nana phyllis died in the 1980s in cardiff and i think about 4 to 6 yes in it ?

If someone has access to Worldwide Ancestry and can look this up it may be him

Name: Cornelius Simmons
Birth: year - British West Indies
Arrival: date - St Albans, Vermont, United States
Residence: British West Indies

Ahh....I see K has edited the post and given the 2nd qtr. for the death.

Kath. x

If this is the correct death record then his birth was around 1897 give or take a couple of years. Do you know if there was a big difference in their ages?

Kath. x

hi k can you tel me what quater has died ?

Just done it

Kayx

thank u so much

Can you check the image K and see which qtr. of the year the death was?

Kath. x

There is a possible on Ancestry if he died in Cardiff

Name: Cornelius Simmons
Death Registration Month/Year: 2nd Quarter1968
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 126