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Horace James Rutherford

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Thomas

Thomas Report 26 Mar 2011 05:19

It is all very confusing isn't it?
No Beatrice had no family in Australia. She entered Australia in 1928 on the SS Osterley as an experienced domestic emigrant, she was 20 years of age. She did say that times were very hard in England.

Thomas

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Mar 2011 17:40

Is there any reason that Beatrice went to Australia? Did she have family there............. is it possible that is where her father was?

Dee x

Astra

Astra Report 25 Mar 2011 13:41

I think you are right Jax. I feel sure that he is still alive in 1911 which is why Annie didn't marry Mr. Rutherford (Horace or Henry) whoever he might be. Quite frankly I don't think we are ever going to find out who he was with so little to go on.

jax

jax Report 24 Mar 2011 21:49

I would say that was him above Astra...would'nt you?

Leyton and Plaistow are next to each other anyway

jax


Name: James Thomas Everitt
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 25 (click to see others on page)



Johns death.....not seeing a birth though nearest I can see is a John Everist west ham 1863

Name: John Everitt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 6
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 9c
Page: 48 (click to see others on page)

Astra

Astra Report 24 Mar 2011 20:59

These are the baptisms of 6 of James and Catherine's children. The 7th one is Ernest born in 1870. James Thomas and John were baptised on the same day but there is no evidence to suggest that they were twins. I can find evidence of all of the other children in the census records except for John. Are we to assume therefore that the child who died as noted in the 1911 census is John. This would mean that James Thomas is still alive in 1911.

James Thomas Everitt 1 Feb 1863 Leyton, Essex, England abt 1863

>>>John Everitt 1 Feb 1863 Leyton, Essex, England abt 1863

Florence Harriet Mary Everitt 7 May 1865 Leyton, Essex, England abt 1865

Catherine Eleanor Everitt 23 Dec 1866 Leyton, Essex, England abt 1866

Alice Emily Everitt 28 Jun 1868 Leyton, Essex, England abt 1868

Agnes Everitt 20 Oct 1872 Leyton, Essex, England abt 1872

jax

jax Report 24 Mar 2011 14:12

I wonder????

1911 census - household transcription
Person: EVERETT, James
Address: 100 Grange Park Road Leyton


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MCCUBBIN, Sophia Head Widow F 76 1835 Devonshire VIEW
EASTWOOD, Thomas Grand Son Law Married M 24 1887 Decorator House Woodford Essex VIEW
EASTWOOD, Henrietta Granddaughter Married
3 years F 24 1887 Stepney VIEW
EASTWOOD, Henry Grandson M 1 1910 Leyton Essex VIEW
EVERETT, James Visitor Single M 50 1861 Bricklayer Plaistow VIEW

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jax

jax Report 24 Mar 2011 14:07

I dont think the death in 1900 is him....could be wrong of course, unless Thomas knows why he would be in Billericay?

jax

Astra

Astra Report 24 Mar 2011 13:45

Marriage of his parents. Details

James Burford Everitt >>>>>Bricklayer
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Catherine Mary Burford >>>>>Minor
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Jul 1860
Parish: St Mary
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: James Robert Everitt >>>>>Bricklayer
Spouse Father name: Thomas Burford>>>>Bricklayer

Witnessed by Thomas Burford and Emma ??? Can't read

Astra

Astra Report 24 Mar 2011 13:39

This is the 1911 for James Burford Everitt who by this time is married to Ellen.

It is noted that they have 7 children 6 of which are living and 1 who has died.

EVERITT, James Burford Head Marred M 73 1838 Bricklayer Huntingdon St Ives VIEW
EVERITT, Ellen Wife Marred
33 years F 79 1832 Middlesex Stepney VIEW
EVERITT, Ernest John Son Single M 41 1870 Bricklayer Essex Leyton VIEW


Address:
53 Washington Avenue Manor Park County:
Essex


Astra

Astra Report 24 Mar 2011 13:28

I thought it might be him. I saved this information yesterday.


James J Everitt >>>>>>>>T as middle initial on original image
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James B Everitt
Mother's Name: Catherine M Everitt
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham, Essex, England
Civil parish: Leyton
County/Island: Essex
Household Members: Name Age
James B Everitt 33 >>>>Builder
Catherine M Everitt 31
>>>>James J Everitt 9
Florence C M Everitt 5
Alice E Everitt 2
Ernest J Everitt 1 Month


Marriage of parents. Strange that they both share the same name!

Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
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>>Burford Catherine Mary Islington 1b 351
>>Everitt James Burford Islington 1b 351
Green Maria Jane Islington 1b 351
Watson Edward Johnson Islington 1b 351

Astra

Astra Report 24 Mar 2011 13:27

PM from Thomas

Hi Astra.
James Everitt was a Bricklayer.
On marriage certificate he was 37 in 1897 so he would have been born around.1860, his father was James Burfrey (this is what it looks like) Everitt also a bricklayer and they lived at 44 Liddington Road West Ham



Thomas

Thomas Report 24 Mar 2011 11:28

Astra.

Beatrice birth certificate states that her father James Henry Rutherford occupation was engine fitter.

Tom

jax

jax Report 23 Mar 2011 11:08

I am still trying to find out if James Everitt died before Annie took up with Horace/James

Ok so he was born 1860ish could you tell us his occupation and fathers name and occupation please

As I said Annie still says married in 1901 rather than widowed. Is there a reason why he should die in Billericay and his age alter by 3 years?

jax

Astra

Astra Report 23 Mar 2011 06:59

You say that on the birth certificate of Beatrice the father is james H Rutherford. Is his occupation the same?

Astra

Astra Report 23 Mar 2011 06:22

No it wasn't Horace it was James H but i couldn't find him after 1891


James H Rutherford
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Willesborough, Kent, England
Civil parish: Lower Bebington
Ecclesiastical parish: New Ferry
Town: Primrose Hill New Ferry
Household Members: Name Age
John Robinson 34
Sarah E Robinson 29
James H Rutherford 22 >>>Fitter


Astra

Astra Report 23 Mar 2011 06:20

Thanks Thomas.
I did find a Horace Rutherford who was noted as fitter on the census yesterday. Let me take another look.

Thomas

Thomas Report 23 Mar 2011 05:18

Thank you all for your trouble.

I found a death of a James Everitt aged 43 in 1900 in Essex but his birth is different by a couple of years to what is on the marriage certificate which says that in 1897 he was 37 years of age.

Horace is listed on the certificates as being an Engine Fitter.

Sorry that I have no more information.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Mar 2011 18:09

Until Thomas comes back I'm just adding these;

1901 England Census
about James Rutherford
Name: James Rutherford
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Scotland

Civil parish: Kingston On Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingston on Thames St Luke
Town: Kingston On Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Railwa Porter

Condition as to marriage: Single

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 300
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bell 50
Mary Ann Bell 29
Catherine Bell 18
Harry Bell 16
Helene B Rivers 54
Percy J Hains 5
James Rutherford 32



1901 England Census
about James H Rutherford
Name: James H Rutherford
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Russia (British Subject)

Civil parish: Rochford
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Butcher

Condition as to marriage: Single

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Rochford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
James H Rutherford 31
Elizabeth Marsh 37
Mary A Godwin 35


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Mar 2011 18:02

So Beatrice sadly died quite young in Australia;

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Beatrice Emma Snowdon
Name: Beatrice Emma Snowdon
Death Date: 03 Sep 1947
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: James Rutherford
Mother's Name: Annie Lorring
Registration Year: 1947
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B013306
Page Number: 2116


And whoever registered her death put James as her father.


Dee x

jax

jax Report 22 Mar 2011 13:40

She was still married in 1901 so perhaps she could not marry Horace?

Do you have any other details on James Everitt?

Please reply on thread at the bottom of the page rather than clicking on our names

jax