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Jane was born in Downton, Wilts in 1857, the daughter of James Chalk and Ann Hatcher. She was the sixth of their seven children. In 1881 she was living in Downton with her widowed father and unmarried brother Frank. After that date I can find no trace of her. She may have gone to London and may have visited downton as an old lasy in the 1920s.

Name: Jane Chalk ??
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Downton, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Britford
Ecclesiastical parish: Britford
Town: Britford
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Alderbury
Sub-registration district: Salisbury
ED, institution, or vessel: Alderbury Union Workhouse

Christine - I have a potential match on the 1901 England Census, in Devizes, Wiltshire, for a Jane Chalke (e on the end).

This Jane was born in 1857, place of birth not stated.

I've sent you a message with the details.

Hi Christine, it may be worthwhile checking the Search Trees box above as other members on this site seem to have Jane in their tree (check both spellings). If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner for further details.


Paul, there is nothing abusive about what jax has advised. Most of us have family members who were inmates in some sort of institution or other.


Also, if Christine is new, and doesn't know how to use the boards, then she will think that your advice is the only response she will get.


Mind you, if she doesn't return, I will send one of my messages to her as I did to you last year when you posted on an old thread........and you didn't reply... :(



Cx

Ha ha...I have lots of lunatics in my family...it's history, the past it doesn’t matter at all

If someone asks publicly for info then they have to be prepared to accept the truth

Jax was not abusive at all and I can’t understand why you have reported her?

Ok Christine if your Jane Chalk is with her father in 1881 then the 1901 census posted above is more than likely nothing to do with her . I also do not think the 1891 is her either as there is a Jane in the same area with a birth approx 1861 but no births for that year?? so your guess is as good as mine.... this is the Jane from 1901 above

1881
Name: Jane Chalk
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Devizes St James
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address: "Wilts County Lunatic Asylum"
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: No Occupation

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: Kilts County Lunatic Asylum
Neighbors: View others on page

1891

Name: Jane Chalke
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St James
Ecclesiastical parish: Southbroom but has its own chaplain
Town: Devizes
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: Wiltshire County Lunatic Asylum

This a death for one of them, poss the one above

Deaths Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Chalkes Jane 46 Devizes 5a 61

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All these born within a couple of years in the same place

Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
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CHALK Jane Maria Alderbury 5a 175

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Births Sep 1857 (98%)
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Chalk Jane Alderbury 5a 179

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Births Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Chalk Jane Alderbury 5a 186

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Births Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Chalk Jane Alderbury 5a 170

None died as children either

Just marking this, as I know OH has James CHALK and Ann HATCHER in his tree, by way of Jane's sister Frances.

Will take another look tomorrow.

Gwyn

I don't understand Jax being reported either, from what I can see she was just trying to be helpful.

The 1901 census that shates that Jane is a patient was well over a 100 yeras ago, I agree with Ginny plenty of people have inmates in their tree and Christine I hope should not be ashamed that if it is the correct Jane was there at one point in her life.

You just never know what you will uncover when you start looking..

As you can see Grace it does not look like the same family anyway, but what do I know?

jax

Thank you for suggestions about Jane Chalk. I know for certain that the Jane Chalk I am looking for is the Jane recorded in the 1881 census living in Downton with her father and brother. She was born in Downton, which was part of the Alderbury registration district, in July 1857 and baptised in Downton church. Chalk is a common surname in that area and I know there were others called Jane Chalk of a similar age. I am interested in finding about what happened to Jane, whatever that was. Her brother Frank married and her father died both in 1887. my late mother in law remembered an old lady who visited the family in Downton in the 1920s and who she thought was called Aunt Jane.

It is a puzzle I must say

I am wondering whether she could of left the country ? not seeing any Jane's that married coming from that area at the moment...I shall keep looking

jax

Jane's sister, Frances CHALK married in Hampshire in 1870.
Her address is Chipstead, Surrey, so I wonder if the sisters moved there for a while, or had family links there?

Gwyn

How about this one

1891

Name: Jane Cole
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas A Cole
Gender: Female
Where born: Duowton, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Farnham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Farnham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Farnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas A Cole 28
Jane Cole 33


Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Chalk Jane Epsom 2a 11
COLE Thomas Arthur Epsom 2a 11


So looks like you can ignore all the other census's hopefully

As Christine sys, there were other Jane Chalk(e) in the area ....... in fact, there were 3 born in ca 1858, according to the 1881 Census

One of those was already in the Asylum, and in fact the census states that her birthplace was "unknown"


Jane Chalk abt 1858 Patient Devizes St James, Wiltshire


Then there was this one:-

Jane Chalk abt 1858 Downton, Wiltshire, England Head Downton, Wiltshire


and finally, the one who Christine says is definitely the one she is looking for:-

Jane Chalk James abt 1858 Downton, Wiltshire, England Daughter Downton, Wiltshire



sylvia

1901 census - household transcription
Person: COLE, Jane
Address: Malden Road, Cheam, Village



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COLE, Thomas A Head Married M 38 1863 Bricklayer Labourer
Cheam
Surrey VIEW
COLE, Jane Wife Married F 42 1859 Caretaker
Dourton
Wiltshire VIEW

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So it did'nt look like they had children...only the marriage cert would prove whether it is the right one or not

looks good though, jax


sylvia

As Gwyn has said the sister Frances lived in Chipstead it looks quite possible that this could be the correct Jane

jax

There are several Public Family Trees on ancestry that have this Jane Chalk on them


none has taken her past the 1881 Census!



sylvia