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Elizabeth Fifield b 1854

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Flick

Flick Report 6 Apr 2011 08:37

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1264338

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Apr 2011 07:54

And another thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1264338

Rose

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:50

Thank you all for your help and patience. It is very much appreciated. Now I have a lot of homework to do!

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Apr 2011 07:48

Already posted:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Fifield Name: Elizabeth Fifield
Age: 18 ..Spinster
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Spouse Name: William Hendrie Thomson
Spouse Age: 24 ....Clerk....Widower
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1872
Parish: St Andrew, Coin Street
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
******Father Name: James Fifield ....Slater??? Master - could be 'Station Master'!
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Thomson ..... Clerk

Address for William..90 Commercial Rd
Address for Elizabeth...40 Cornwall Rd.

Witnesses James Fifield + Edward Inos??? Thurgood

Rose

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:47

Oh for %$#@S SAKE.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:46

Nellie, Rose?


1891

Name: Nellie G Thomson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Where born: NY

Civil parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Apr 2011 07:45

Oh dear! Another thread here with a lot of this info:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/ardin/thread/1260914

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Apr 2011 07:43

You say she returned in 1894 but she's on the 1891 census!

Rose

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:40

In the American 1880 census Nellie was born in New York!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:36

1901

Name: Nellie Thomson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: United States
[America]

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London


The user's correction says:

America rather than United States
The entry clearly does not say United States. It says America which *may* -- or just as equally, may *not* -- mean the U.S. This is an habitual error in the UK censuses, ie. changing the word America in the original entry to United States in the transcription, based on the false assumption that the word America always means the U.S. The transcript should reflect what the entry says, not change it according to what the transcribers assume it means. I have no connection here and no further info.
Submitted by watercloud on 27/01/2011


(That's correct, as you will sometimes see it meaning Canada, in early censuses in particular. This time it seems to be correct.)

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:35

Nellie Grace married James Ardin in1904 in Wandsworth Surrey.

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
William H. THOMSON Self M Male W 32 ENG Clerk In Office ENG ENG
Lizzie THOMSON Wife M Female W 26 ENG Variety Store ENG ENG
Nellie G. THOMSON Dau S Female W 6 NY ENG ENG

Source Information:
Census Place New York, New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254880
NA Film Number T9-0880
Page Number 81D

Rose

Astra

Astra Report 6 Apr 2011 07:33

this is them in 1880

Nellie G. Thomson
Home in 1880: New York City, New York, New York
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of Household: Dau (Daughter)
Father's Name: William H. Thomson
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Lizzie Thomson
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Marital Status: Single
Household Members: Name Age
William H. Thomson 32
Lizzie Thomson 26
Nellie G. Thomson 6


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:29

Ta, Astra. So according to that, Elizabeth is still living, although unfortunately it seems Nellie is the only living child (unless she was deceased and another child had survived).

Possibly Elizabeth was living with Nellie. If we knew *whom Nellie had married*, that could be a help ...

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:29

The only child I know about to Elizabeth Thomson, was Nellie Grace b.1875
In the 1911 census William was a boarder in Jersey, showed he was married, but no wife on the census.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:27

Ann, if you have her father's name from her marriage certificate, you have his occupation, unless for some reason she didn't state it.

You said you had them in the 1880 census in the United States, but you won't tell us where, or who is in the household.

You mention the daughter Nellie, but you won't tell us whether she had other children or when or where they were born.

We aren't mind readers, and if you want help finding more info, you have to give us all the info you have. How could we help find *more* info if we were starting with *less* than you have now??

Astra

Astra Report 6 Apr 2011 07:24

Here you go

MARSHALL, Amy Blanche Owen Head Married F 35 1876 Restaurant Keeper Madras Pros India Res VIEW
MILLS, Sarah Emma Partner Single F 30 1881 Restaurant Keeper Ogley Hay Staffs Res VIEW
MILLS, Maude Assistant Single F 24 1887 Assistant Ogley Hay Staffs Res VIEW
THOMSON, William Hendric Boarder Married M 63 1848 Book Keeper Dry Goods Establishment Middlesex London Res VIEW
CROUCH, Catherine Alice Visitor Single F 35 1876 Milliner Middlesex Tottenham Res VIEW


Address:
Gorey Pier Jersey County:
Jersey


married 32 years 6 children born 1 living

Ann

Ann Report 6 Apr 2011 07:21

I have her marriage record. I knew her father was James, and that she went to the USA, where her daughter Nellie was born and apart from returning in1894, I didn't really know anymore until tonight.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:20

Right ...


1911

THOMSON WILLIAM HENDRIC 1848 63 Jersey Jersey

No one else named Thomson living with him, but I don't subscribe to see full details.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 07:17

And if you have William Hendrie Thomson in the 1911, can't you tell us what it says about him??????? Age, place of birth ...