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For nearly 20 years have tried to find grandfather named William Hotchon. Supposedly married to grandmother Barbara Alice. Her married name was Hotchon. She later married a second husband Fred Eales in 1918. My father was born in 1915. So he died in the intervening period. I have looked on all English and Scottish census lists. Even U.S. lists. It's an unusual and rare surname. Can anyone suggest where to look. I suspect he didn't exist which means his name may never be known. Thanks in antipation.

Was your grandmother's maiden surname IRWIN?

Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Hotchon Barbara K Eales S. Shields 10a 1276

What was Barbara Alice's maiden name(from child's birth certificate)?
Thanks

Did you get the name from your father's birth cert?

Flick's marriage is for a Barbara K. Have you the marriage certificate with her father's name?
Thanks

Yes her maiden name was Irwin. I have got the marriage certificate for her marriage in 1918 to Fred Eales

PLEASE say where you got William's name.....................

Either of these?:
Barbara A Eales
Death Registration Month/Year: 1937
Age at death (estimated): 51
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 726

Barbara A Eales
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Durham South Eastern
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 606

Fathers name was on my fathers birth certificate and he was listed as a merchant mariner and I believe that he would not need to be actually present at childs registration. He may have been at sea!

Yes Patchem - top one

Births Dec 1885
Irwin Barbara Alice Lanchester 10a 281

Is this your grandmother?

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Irwin Barbara Alice Lanchester 10a 281

Person: IRWIN, Barbara
Address: Coulby Manor Hemlington Armeshy S O


FREEMAN, Reginald Charles Head Married
25 years M 58 1853 Late Capt 3rd Hullars Brighton Sussex VIEW
FREEMAN, Dorothy Dundas Daughter Single F 20 1891 Plymouth Devon VIEW
KETTLEY, Fanny Servant Single F 21 1890 Head Housemaid Domestic Cliffton Lodg Bedals Yks VIEW
IRWIN, Barbara Servant Single F 25 1886 Kitchenmaid Domestic Catchgate Annfield Plain Durham VIEW
GRAVES, Madge Servant Single F 19 1892 Housemaid Vendor Domestic Eaglescliffe Durham VIEW
CARLING, Alice Servant Single F 26 1885 Cook Domestic Darlington Durham VIEW
STONE, Elsie Servant Single F 16 1895 Stullery Maid Domestic Lackenby Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29323 Reference:
RG14PN29323 RG78PN1697 RD535 SD4 ED13 SN1

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Thornaby Enumeration District:
13 Parish:


Father only needs to be present at registration of a child's birth if the parents own up to being unmarried

1891 England Census
Barbara Irwin
Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Irwin
Mother's Name: Alice Irwin Gender: Female Where born: Collierley, Durham, England Civil parish: Collierly and Pontop Ecclesiastical parish: Collierly St Thomas Town: Catchgate County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Edward Irwin 33
Alice Irwin 32
Ralph Irwin 9
Mary Ann Irwin 7
Barbara Irwin 5
Catherine Irwin 3
Edward Irwin 4/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4088; Folio 68; Page 20; GSU roll: 6099198.

1901 England Census
Barbara A Irwin
Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Catchgate, Durham, England Civil parish: Collierley Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Catchgate County/Island: Durham
Country: England Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 114
Elizabeth Balling 47
Edmund E B Balling 19
Arthur Balling 16
Barbara A Irwin 15
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4666; Folio: 150; Page: 19.

Yes thats her Flick. Personally i think she was telling porkie pies unless he had a German name and it was changed at the time of the First World War. Many did including the Royal Family. She was definately woaking at Nunthorpe Hall in Oct.1913.

Thank you Patchem. Yes thats her family.

Thank you all very much for you trouble. I must sign of now. Regards Brian

Have you looked under Hotchin or Hotchen?

Rose

I have tried Hotchin and Hotchen.

2 people have a William Hotchon in their trees, and seem to have Barbara Irwin also. Have you tried contacting them?
Jan