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Problem with Marriage record

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Geoff

Geoff Report 25 Apr 2011 21:18

A big thank you to all who have responded to my query with useful information.

Geoff

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 23:24

I think the John found prior to the marriage I posted born 1862 is the same person as the John after the marriage I posted born 1860. I think he's tried to make himself older because his wife was older than him.

There is no John born 1860 in Tysoe before the 1891 census

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 23:17

Ann Elizabeths Marriage

Elizabeth Ellen Bate 1876 Rugby
Elizabeth Ann Hancox 1876 Rugby

William Hoseason 1876 Rugby
Charles West 1876 Rugby

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 23:15

& 1871 with brother John showing

1871 England Census
about Ann Elizabeth Hancox
Name: Ann Elizabeth Hancox
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Hancox
Gender: Female
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Tysoe
Town: Church and Tysoe
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Shipston On Stour
Sub-registration district: Halford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 81
Piece: 3217
Folio: 43
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hancox 40
Ann Elizabeth Hancox 16
Lucy Hancox 9
John Hancox 9
Frederick James Hancox 5

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 23:14

christening: 22 Sep 1877 — TYSOE,WARWICK,ENGLAND


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: George Hancox
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 Sep 1877
baptism/christening place: TYSOE,WARWICK,ENGLAND
mother's name: Ann Elizabeth Hancox
indexing project (batch) number: C04281-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1067553


Mother Ann Elizabeth Hancox in 1861 with father James a Mason

1861 England Census
about Ann Elizabeth Hancox
Name: Ann Elizabeth Hancox
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Hancox
Mother's name: Sarah Ann Hancox
Gender: Female
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Tysoe
Town: Warwick
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Shipston On Stour
Sub-registration district: Halford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 2240
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hancox 29
Sarah Ann Hancox 25
Ann Elizabeth Hancox 6
Emma Hancox 4
Lucy Hancox 1

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:54

Jan, I've probably made a few wrong assumptions through lack of info. Another source (a member of the extendeed Hancox family) has given me this
John Hancox born Tysoe baptised 05/04/1862 occupation mason (his father James was a mason)
1891 census his children George 13 and Lucy 10 (I somehow doubt this as he would have been 16 when George was born, possible but unlikely. George is in the 1881 census aged 3 living at James's and described as Grandson). Wife/mother of children not mentioned.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Apr 2011 22:39

You must have got back to him somehow though? Do you have any other info at all?
Jan

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:35

Chrisa, Thank you for your information, I wasn't meaning to ignore you if that's what you were thinking. I need to check all these facts as there is more than one John Hancox.

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Apr 2011 22:31

This is your John in 1881.

HANCOX, James Head Married M 50 1831 Stone Mason
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Jane Wife Married F 49 1832
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Emma Daughter Single F 25 1856 (Masons Dau)
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, John Son Single M 19 1862 Stone Mason
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Fred Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, George Grand Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3113 Folio:
5 Page:
2

Registration District:
Shipston on Stour Sub District:
Halford Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Tysoe Municipal Borough:
Address:
9, Church Tysoe, Tysoe County:
Warwickshire


and the John you have found in 1891 is this one.


1881

HANCOX, John Head Married M 45 1836 General Laborer
Tysol
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Louisa Wife Married F 39 1842
Newbald
Worcestershire VIEW
HANCOX, Emily Daughter Single F 17 1864 Printer Apprentice
Newbald
Worcestershire VIEW
HANCOX, Arthur Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Edg?
Warwickshire VIEW
HANCOX, Kate Daughter Single F 4 1877
Edg?
Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2949 Folio:
108 Page:
37

Registration District:
Kings Norton Sub District:
Kings Norton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Kings Norton Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, Meredith Sq, Kings Norton County:
Worcestershire

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 22:26

Am I invisible?

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:23

Flick,

I see what you mean, thank you.

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:19

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hancox Jarvis William Shipston 6d 631

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 22:17

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Graves Elizabeth Hannah Shipston 6d 1081
>>>>>>>>>Hancox John Shipston 6d 1081
>>>>>>>>>>Shepherd Mary Jane Shipston 6d 1081
Wimbush William Butcher Shipston 6d 1081

Shepherd matches stepsons surname in 1891. 1911 census says married 26 yrs = c1885

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:16

You're missing the point............read the info about page numbers

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:16

brummiejan

You could be right there, maybe I was wrong about the John Hancox in Wallasey, the trouble is there are so many Hancoxes in Tysoe and so many with the same forename. Not being able to trace his wife's name was the stumbling-block but if ***alviegal*** is right about Mary York that would make sense.

chrisa

chrisa Report 24 Apr 2011 22:15

1891 England Census
about John Hancey
Name: John Hancey
[John Hancox]
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Hancey
Gender: Male
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Tysoe
Ecclesiastical parish: The Assumption of the Virgin
Town: Tysoe
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Shipston On Stour
Sub-registration district: Halford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2486
Folio: 16
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hancey 31
Mary J Hancey 32
Mary E Hancey 6
Jarvis W Hancey 4
Cora J Hancey 1
Geoffrey Shepherd 8 <<<<<< Stepson

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:13

No marriage in the qtr/district for a HELEN

Geoff

Geoff Report 24 Apr 2011 22:10

Flick,

RE: 'Shipston' is in italics.....so obviously a 'suspect' district

Where was John born?

Shipston would be correct , he was born in Tysoe within the Shipston registration area

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Apr 2011 22:09

Looks like them 1911:

HANCOX, John Head Married M 51 1860 Waggoner On Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Mary Jane Wife Married
26 years F 52 1859 Radway Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Thomas Henry Son Single M 19 1892 Labbour Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, John Edwin Son Single M 17 1894 Labbour Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Walter Charles Son Single M 15 1896 Labbour Farm Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Ernest Wilfred Son M 12 1899 School Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Margaret Selina Daughter F 10 1901 School Tysoe Warwick VIEW
HANCOX, Frances Hewitt Son M 7 1904 School Tysoe Warwick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18868 Reference:
RG14PN18868 RG78PN1128 RD396 SD3 ED3 SN102

Registration District:
Shipston on Stour Sub District:
Halford Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Tysoe

Address:
Lower Tysoe Kineton Warwick County:
Warwickshire

Flick

Flick Report 24 Apr 2011 22:09

How did you get back to him?