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Thank you Margee for looking ,may be he did change his name ,perhaps I i will never find out any more about him , I was curious , as I looked for Louisa for many years all I knew was she lived in america , so when I found her marriage I wanted to try and find out more about Arthur , I was lucky enough to find them on the census. so I suppose I have found out a little . glenda

I had looked for his attestation papers for the Canadian army, can't find him under Halloway or Holloway.

It's very suspicious that there's absolutely no record of him or his parents in Canada. Do you suppose he changed his name for some reason?

NUDGE

Yes Ginny you have the correct family , also Arthur may have been in the canadian or US army during the first world war , Glenda

I'm going back and taking a different approach on this

So this looks like Louisa's parents marriage:


Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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STYLES Philles Tunbridge 2a 1053
WATTS William Tunbridge 2a 1053


And here on the census:



1901 England Census
about Louisa Watts
Name: Louisa Watts
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Watts
Mother's name: Phillis Watts
Gender: Female
Where born: Brenchley, Kent, England

Civil parish: Horsmonden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margarets
Town: Horsmonden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Tonbridge
Sub-registration district: Brenchley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 760
Folio: 152
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
William Watts 37
Phillis Watts 36
Thomas Watts 15
Frederick Watts 12
Louisa Watts 9
Daisey Watts 7
Arthur Watts 2
Plorence Watts 1



Glenda

Still nothing showing for Arthur....Ive looked at every possible I can think of!

nudge

Margee Yes that is the marriage record I found ,maybe someone can find him as achild or young man with his family Tthank you

Hello sorry for the delay ,son had to use the computor, Ann's record is the one I have been using and I know that that is Arthur , but I know nothing about him before he married ,only what I have seen on marriage and border documents Thank you all

I don't think it's fair to say that Glenda got mixed up. This is the actual marriage record that she's working from. (it's not submitted). It's just curious that we can't find any record of the family in Canada.

Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925 for Louisa Watts

Groom's Name: Arthur Halloway
Groom's Race:
Groom's Age: 40 years
Groom's Birth Date: 1884
Groom's Birthplace: Canada
Bride's Name: Louisa Watts
Bride's Race:
Bride's Age: 31 years
Bride's Birth Date: 1893
Bride's Birthplace: England
Marriage Type:
Marriage Date: 16 Feb 1924
Marriage Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan
Groom's Father: Thomas Halloway
Groom's Mother: Anna Garbutt
Bride's Father: William Watts
Bride's Mother: Phyllis Styles

AoGG

We dont know for sure as Glenda seems to have got 'mixed up'

Maybe we should wait until Glenda comes back with the facts

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was Anna Garbutt Canadian or British?

Nope...that doesnt help

You have gone off track....we need to know the last record you have of your family and how it relates to you?

Thomas Halloway
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth 1862 —Charlton, Kent
residence 31 Mar 1901 —Faversham Within, Kent, England
census 31 Mar 1901 —Faversham Within, Kent, England



Thomas Halloway
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth 1863 —Stockport, Cheshire
residence 31 Mar 1901 —Brighouse, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
census 31 Mar 1901 —Brighouse, Yorkshire (West Riding), England



Thomas Halloway
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth 1863 —Liverpool, Lancashire, England
residence 1881 —Liverpool, Lancashire, England
census 1881 —Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Arthur Halloway
United States Census, 1930

birth 1883 —Canada
residence 1930 —Pontiac, Oakland, Michigan
immigration 1922
census 1930 —Pontiac, Oakland, Michigan
spouse: Louise Halloway

record title: United States Census, 1930
name: Arthur Halloway
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Pontiac, Oakland, Michigan
gender: Male
age: 47
marital status: Married
race: White
birthplace: Canada
estimated birth year: 1883
immigration year: 1922
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: Canada
enumeration district number: 61
family number: 642
sheet number and letter: 27A
line number: 4
nara publication: T626, roll 1017
digital folder number: 4609257

i know its them in on the 1930 census in Pontiac michigan and Louisa sister also lived there . Most of the info I have about Arthur IS from the census his parents names on family search marriage details his place of birth on census

Sorry...what I mean is where does your last 'firm' record come from?

I'm sure you have gone off track somewhere


Margee......help!

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=fs:1452395&r=r_96457731&pn=p1 I know that the name of bride is correct also her parents my grt grandparents not sure if it was submitted how do you tell ? all other details I have on ARTHUR are from US census and border crossings Glenda

The Family Search...was it a submitted record?

Do you want to start from the beginning, i.e. what you have as 'fact' and not records you have found

Sorry for so many questions ;)

sorry I was getting the details from a border crossing card I have enlarged it . I was looking at it wrong it said destination Detroit but he was coming from toronto so ignore the STENT must need new specs SORRY

On that 1923 border crossing he gives name of sister as Lizzie Rutherford but I can't make out her address, could be Moncton, NB.

I don't understand the Stent before Toronto?