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I am seeking help on the above please.

I am trying to trace her parents


1851 Census
Mary Broom Born 1820 aged 31 Lydbury North Domestic Servant Kempton, Clun

1852

George Ball Married Mary Broom Vol 6A Page 851

1861 Census
Living at Down, Lydbury North
George Ball Born 1801 aged 60
Mary Ball Born 1820 aged 41
Edward Broom Born 1850 aged 11 Stepson
Samuel Ball Born 1853 aged 8
Richard Ball Born 1855 aged 6
Sarah Ball Born 1857 aged 4 Lydbury North

I reckon you have been a victim of your own success!

Maybe ask one question as it's a bit confusing...although you do right to post all you know

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Have you got the marriage and birth certificates to help confirm your research?

You seem to have been working in the wrong direction.....unless that's just the impression created by your posting.

What are you asking?

Do you want people to go through all of the records checking them?

Or is there something specific with which you are looking for help?

I am struggling with the Marriages of George Ball and Mary Broon of 1852 and the Marriage of Sarah Ball their female offspring to William Rogers 1886


From the Marriage Certificate of Mary Elizabeth Rogers to Alfred Harry Kempster in 1906 William Rogers (deceased) is given as the Bride`s Father.

I wish to have confirmed the George Ball and Mary Broom and if i have the correct William Rogers marrying Sarah Ball

Thank you kindly if you can confirm my findings or put me in the right direction if i am incorrect

So, is the marriage of mary and Alfred definitely the correct one, that is your ancestors? Therefore are you trying to confirm who her parents are?
jan

Marriages Dec 1906
KEMPSTER Alfred Harry Oswestry 6a 1438
ROGERS Mary Elizabeth Oswestry 6a 1438


1911

KEMPSTER, Alfred Harry Head Married M 27 1884 Waggoner On Farm Shropshire Oswestry VIEW
KEMPSTER, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married
4 years F 27 1884 Shropshire Lydbury VIEW
KEMPSTER, Catherine Daughter F 3 1908 Shropshire Oswestry VIEW
KEMPSTER, Edith Ellen Daughter F 1 1910 Church Minshull Cheshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21805 Reference:
RG14PN21805 RG78PN1298 RD449 SD2 ED8 SN20

Registration District:
Nantwich Sub District:
Nantwich Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Church Minshull

Address:
Lee Green Church Minshull Middlewich County:
Cheshire

You must work backwards............getting certs at every stage to verify your findings/thoughts

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Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
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Kempster Alfred Oswestry 6a 707

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Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
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Kempster Harry Oswestry 6a 670


No birth for Alfred H

ok

I did work backwards to get to 1841

Perhaps i have incorrectly published my findings in the incorrect order

my apologies

PM

The marriage of Alfred and Mary is correct

I have a copy of the certificate in front of me

parish Church of West Felton, in the County of Salop

Number 379 December 18th 1906

Joseph Edward kempster and Kate Rogers are the witnesses

both bride and groom parents are deceased

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
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Rogers Mary Elizabeth Clun 6a 563

If born Lydbury this is most likely her birth:

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
Rogers Mary Elizabeth Clun 6a 563

1891 England Census

Name: Mary E Rogers
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Rogers
Mother's name: Sarah Rogers
Gender: Female
Where born: Lydbury North, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: West Felton
Ecclesiastical parish: West Felton
Town: Haughton
County/Island: Shropshire

Registration district: Oswestry
Sub-registration district: Knockin

William Rogers 35
Sarah Rogers 33
Mary E Rogers 7
Thomas W Rogers 4
Catherine Rogers 3
Edith Rogers 2
Martha J Rogers 1/12

1891.......catherine would be Kate

Name: Mary E Rogers
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Rogers
Mother's name: Sarah Rogers
Gender: Female
Where born: Lydbury North, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: West Felton
Ecclesiastical parish: West Felton
Town: Haughton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England


Registration district: Oswestry
Sub-registration district: Knockin
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2114
Folio: 103
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
William Rogers 35 b. Knockin
Sarah Rogers 33 b. Lydbury North
Mary E Rogers 7
Thomas W Rogers 4
Catherine Rogers 3
Edith Rogers 2
Martha J Rogers 1/12

And 1901

Name: Sarah Edwards
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Edwards
Gender: Female
Where born: Lydbury North, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: West Felton
Ecclesiastical parish: West Felton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Registration district: Oswestry
Sub-registration district: Knockin
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Piece: 2542
Folio: 100
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
William Edwards 56
Sarah Edwards 44
Thomas W Rogers 14
Edith Rogers 12
Martha J Rogers 10
Charlotte E Rogers 9
John Edwards 7
Hannah Edwards 5
Samuel Edwards 3

Sarah widowed by 1901:

1901 England Census

Name: Martha J Rogers
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Sarah Edwards
Gender: Female
Where born: West Felton, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: West Felton
Ecclesiastical parish: West Felton
County/Island: Shropshire

Registration district: Oswestry
Sub-registration district: Knockin

William Edwards 56
Sarah Edwards 44
Thomas W Rogers 14
Edith Rogers 12
Martha J Rogers 10
Charlotte E Rogers 9
John Edwards 7
Hannah Edwards 5
Samuel Edwards 3

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)

Edwards William Oswestry 6a 953
Rogers Sarah Oswestry 6a 953

the above information is correct as i have it confirmed by my family

but no one in my family can confirm as to which William Rogers it is and I need to know to continue the line back to Thomas and Elizabeth Rogers who gave birth to Samuel Rogers and other children in 1790

Sarah 1911. Not that you asked for this!!

EDWARDS, William Head Married M 66 1845 Invalid Great Ness Shropshire VIEW
EDWARDS, Sarah Wife Married
18 years F 54 1857 Lydbury North Shropshire VIEW
EDWARDS, Samuel Son M 13 1898 School West Felton Shropshire VIEW
EDWARDS, Richard Son M 9 1902 School West Felton Shropshire VIEW
ROGERS, William Son Single M 24 1887 Wagoner On Farm West Felton Shropshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16124 Reference:
RG14PN16124 RG78PN995 RD350 SD1 ED8 SN50

Registration District:
Oswestry Sub District:
Knockin Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
West Felton

Address:
Hen Barns West Felton Oswestry County:
Shropshire