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I think it was just a hamlet as it did not have it's own registers-the Oxfordshire Parish Register Handbook says "see Mixbury or Spelsbury" under Fulwell

You asked about Aunt A Smith's address- it just said Fulwell nr Enstone

I have been trying to find out how big the hamlet of Fulwell actually is but I am not having much luck on Google. I thought that if I could find that out it would give me some idea if the Annie and John Smith could be the ones we were looking for

Thomas George was a shoemaker in NZ

I wrote this answer somewhere else so am rewriting it here in case you do not read back in the sequence

I am not sure just where all this fits but will ponder on it over the weekend. Thankyou Vicci.
I will try and find our Thomas Smith's first wedding records from 1876 and see if that can help clarify anything about his mother.

He is a mystery!! If only people did a little more talking and scribing

This is Robert SMITHs baptism at S u W

27 Apr 1817 -Robert Smith s Thomas & Sarah, superannuated Sergeant of the Bucks Militia

Cannot see a baptism for a Miriam Eeles/Eiles

The marriage was not at S u W

The following baptisms of Robert & Miriams children are from the S u W transcripts
10 Dec 1839-Henry
05 Nov 1841-Mary Ann
15 Oct 1843-Sarah + 25 Dec 1843 (2 entries)
23 May 1847-Eliza
30 May 1849-Emma
25 Feb 1852 Thomas George
19 Mar 1854-Anna
29 Nov 1857-Harriet Catherine
19 May 1861-James
27 May 1862-Ellen

the last 2 postings maybe red herrings but they are the only smith that come up in 1911 in Fulwell, by coinsidence they have a son Thomas and mothers name is Annie.

can find no connection to the Smiths of Shipton.

Do you have full address for the Aunt Smith from her letter?

Alos do you know the occupation of Thomas George Smith? was he a shoemaker?

1911

Fulwell Enston OXfordshire

Sched Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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13 SMITH, John Head Married M 69 1842 Gardener Retired Domestic Enstone Oxon VIEW
13 SMITH, Annie Wife Married
40 years F 61 1850 Enstone Oxon VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8245 Reference:
RG14PN8245 RG78PN422 RD157 SD1 ED8 SN13

Registration District:
Chipping Norton Sub District:
Charlbury Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Spelsbury

Address:
Fulwell Enston Oxon County:
Oxfordshire

1901
Annie Smith
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Enstone, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Enstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Enstone St Kenelm
Town: Ditchley and Enstone
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chipping Norton
Sub-registration district: Chipping Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1400
Folio: 110
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 59
Annie Smith 51
Thomas Smith 25

1851 , I think this might the right one
Mariane Smith
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos Smith
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Shipton, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Shipton
Ecclesiastical parish: Shipton
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Chipping Norton
Sub-registration district: Charlbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1732
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Smith 34
Mariane Smith 34
Henry Smith 11
Mary Ann Smith 9
Sarah Smith 7
Eliza Smith 4
Emily Smith 1

there are "submitted" baptism records for these children with Robert and Miriam Ecles (Eeles?) as parents

Henry Smith Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
10 DEC 1839 Shipton Under Wychwood, Oxford, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Robert Smith Family
Mother: Miriam Ecles

Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.

1861
this could be him staying with his uncle
Thos George Smith
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Oxford St Ebbe
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Oxford
Sub-registration district: Oxford
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 895
Folio: 62
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos George Smith 52
Hannah Smith 56
Naomi Eh Smith 22
Henry Smith 21 nephew
Thos George Smith 9

gives his occupation as shoemaker

Henry might be a brother?

His second wife was 36 and he says he is 31 on the marriage certificate.

There is just so many unknowns about this guy - and a family here in NZ that are hoping for some answers. That is why the newly found letter from Aunt A Smith from Fulwell has rekindled the questions

I wonder if he came out here to NZ as a small lad prior to 1861 census
Thankyou again

Was his second wife much younger than him?


If so, he may have 'trimmed' his age a little

THis sounds good Elizabeth. And it matches except on his marriage certificate he says he is 31 in 1888. Five years is quite a lot to be out I would think! Or maybe not?

He came out to New Zealand prior to 1876 when he married first time around

Thankyou everyone- this is my first time using this message board. I am so impressed with the work you all put in helping people

Flick, I have a marriage certificate only for the second mariage . I have a newspaper cutting verifying the first marriage in 1876
Gaylene

There is this baptism in the Shipton u Wychwood transcripts:-

29 Feb 1852-Thomas George SMITH s Robert & Miriam

Cannot see a buriel for him between 1852 and 1861 (there are a lot of Smiths !) and cannot see him in the 1861 census

Something funny going on..................

1851

Name: Meriam Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos Smith
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Leafield, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Shipton
Ecclesiastical parish: Shipton
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Chipping Norton
Sub-registration district: Charlbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 1732
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Smith 30
Meriam Smith 33
Philip Smith 8
Eliza Smith 6
John Smith 4

1841

Name: Miram Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Gender: Female
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Shipton Under Wychwood
Hundred: Chadlington
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Chipping Norton
Sub-registration district: Charlbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 879
Book: 11
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Rob Smith 24
Miram Smith 23
Henry Smith 1
_____________________________________________________

ROBT SMITH

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Marriages:
Spouse: MIRIAM EELES
Marriage: 1838 Shipton Under Wychwood, Oxford, England



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Messages:
Record extracted from Oxfordshire Marriage Transcripts, 1538-1837, compiled by J. S. W. Gibson. (The index was based on the groom index, film numbers 54,396 to 54,397.) The index has no additional information. The printout, however, may help you find names of people who may be brothers, sisters, and other relatives.

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Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)
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Eeles David Chipping Norton 16 79
Eeles Meriam Chipping Norton 16 79
MATHEWS Joseph Chipping Norton 16 79
SHARPE Lucy Hannah Chipping Norton 16 79
SMITH Robert Chipping Norton 16 79
Wiggens Mary Chipping Norton 16 79

You say that Thomas married in 1876........that would have made him only about 18, if your estimate of his birth year is correct.

BUT..............as shown above, there was no Thomas with the parents you name on the 1861 or 1871 censuses

Do you have the cert for the 1876 marriage?

Thankyou everyone. I know that the info is flimsy that I have given you to work with but that is all I have and no live descendants here in NZ with any Information

Thomas just disappeared after doing two years in jail in Napier Prison NZ ( 1893-1895) for bigamy And it was kept very hush hush so no one really knows anything. The letter signed A Smith was a breakthrough for us

Thankyou again

1911 census has four pages of Smiths in the Chipping Norton district........