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Nice one alviegal. Have submitted correction to Ancestry.
Jan

I shall have a peak now and see if I can find any other records for this guy.x

The fmp transcription has his place of birth as St Helena, a British colony in the South Atlantic famous as a place of exile for Napoleon.

This man is deaf & dumb also, not sure if it's a step too far re name!!

1881 England Census

Name: Edward Colley Woodcock
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Woodcock
Gender: Male
Where born: France

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Norman Sqr

Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern

Elizabeth Woodcock 41
Edward Colley Woodcock 25
John Prince Woodcock 38
James Orford 72

I thought this to BrummieJan but I can't work out what the word/letters are before.
I this is the case... im confused to why he is recorded as French in the others.
I know his wife on the 1891 census is recorded as Anna but all the other details match the following records x

EDIT - Even so, a st helend in France does not exsist :-S

I don't.... I know this would be easier but I was hoping someone could help first before I start spending the pennies :-/

Eccles x

I think the 1891 birthplace is actually Ireland?#

EDIT sorry, delete that thought! I'm wrong, it looks more like St. Heland, apologies.

Jan

First question - do you have his marriage cert to Hannah? You could do with his father's name.
Jan

PLEASE SEE END OF POST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - CAN YOU STILL HELP?


I am totally baffled by Edward Collins whereabouts before his marriage in 1887.

Can anyone help me?

This is the information I have -

D.O.B - abt 1852 (1891,1901,1911 census)

P.O.B - France (1911 census)
Foreign Subject/France (1901 census)
St Heland (1891 census)

MARRIAGE - 21st Aug 1887, Great Yarmouth to HANNAH OXBOROUGH

RESIDENCES - Lived in Great Yarmouth throughout his married life

CHILDREN - James, Amelia, Ethel, Ernest, Bertie, Elizabeth, Edith, Rosy, Louise, Alice, Nell, Mary Arthur.

NOTE: In all censuses he was recorded as Deaf & Dumb.

ADDITIONAL INFO THAT MAY HELP:-

There is a 1861 census in Birmingham for a Edwin Collins (ages 8) that was recorded as deaf and dumb from birth. His father names is Sylvannus Collins. But it says they were all born in B'ham.
I cannot connect my Edward to this edwin if they are indeed the same people.

Also, I think Edward may have been married before he wed Hannah Oxborough in 1887. There is a 17 yr age gap between them. She was born in 1869. Edward was still having sprogs well into his 50's

I just cannot find anything. I am limited with the info I cant search as I do not have an overseas subscription with ancestry....

Hope someone can help
Many thanks in advance :-)
Eccles

FOR REFERENCE : -1891 England Census about Edward Collins

Name: Edward Collins
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Collins
Gender: Male
Where born: St Heland
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Collins 39
Anna Collins 23
Amelia Collins 4
Ethel Collins 23
James Collins 6