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I am looking for relatives on my Mothers side - she was born 15/4/1904

She was a family adoption in about 1907 - there are no papers.She was adopted by her fathers sister Parthenia Hayburn.They were both born in Liverpool - Parthenia in 1883.

Her Dad was Arthur Jeremiah Smith born ( I think ) 2/6/1874.He married Mary Morgan in 1897 (she was possibly born in Bangor.

All I know is my Mother had amongst her siblings a brother called Arthur.

Can anybody help?

Sylvia Vincent

Her birth cert will give her parents names
Name: Lilian Parthenia Smith
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 735

Name: Parthenia Smith
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1905
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number 976
spouse Frederick Sandland Hayburn

The cert will give both fathers names if known

1911 ????

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SMITH, Arthur Head Married M 34 1877 Boot And Glog Maker And Repairer Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Mary E Wife Married
14 years F 32 1879 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Lena Daughter F 11 1900 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Lillian P Daughter F 6 1905 School Lancs Woolton VIEW
SMITH, Ada M Daughter F 1 1910 Lancs Liverpool VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22503 Reference:
RG14PN22503 RG78PN1324 RD455 SD7 ED20 SN225

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
North Everton Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Everton

Address:
9 St Domingo Road Everton Liverpool

Regards Vera

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Arthur Jeremiah Smith Name: Arthur Jeremiah Smith Hawker
Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 22
Marriage Date: 30 Aug 1897
Parish: Everton St Benedict
Spouse's Name: Mary Elizabeth Morgan
Father's name: Arthur Smith Tailor
Spouse Father's Name: William James Morgan Upholster

19 & 21 Jefferson St

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Bridson Elizabeth Mary W. Derby 8b 627
Morgan Mary Elizabeth W.Derby 8b 627
Morgan May Elizabeth W.Derby 8b 627
Percival George W. Derby 8b 627
Smith Arthur Jeremire W. Derby 8b 627



Regards Vera

Births Mar 1912 ??????
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Smith Arthur A............ Morgan W.Derby 8b 908



Births Mar 1918 ?????--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Smith Arthur............. Morgan W. Derby 8b 700



Regards Vera

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Arthur Jeremiah Smith
Name: Arthur Jeremiah Smith
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1874
Baptism Date: 26 Jul 1874
Parish: Liverpool Christ Church
Father's name: Arthur Smith
Mother's name: Jane Smith

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William James Smith
Name: William James Smith
Birth Date: 3 Dec 1898
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1899
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: Arthur Jeremiah Smith
Mother's name: Mary Elizabeth Smith

Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)
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HAYBURN Frederick Sandland W. Derby 8b 976
LEWIS George W. Derby 8b 976
MADDOCKS Mary Jane W. Derby 8b 976
SMITH Parthenia W. Derby 8b



Regards Vera

Births Dec 1878 (>99%)
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HAYBURN Frederick Sandland Dover 2a 964


But not helping with finding him in 1911

Did they leave the country ?

1881

Arthur SMITH Head M Male 36 Ireland Taylor & Outfitter
Jane SMITH Wife M Female 35 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Olivia SMITH Daur U Female 13 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Malacha SMITH Daur U Female 8 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Arthur J. SMITH Son U Male 6 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Perthenia SMITH Daur U Female 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Jane E. SMITH Daur U Female 2 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Nora SMITH Daur U Female 8 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ellen CHATTERTON Servant U Female 40 Liverpool, Lancashire, England General Domestic Servant
Teresa CALLER Servant U Female 21 Ireland General Domestic Nurse


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Source Information:
Dwelling 6 Long Lane
Census Place Walton On Hill, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341883
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3688 / 106

Deaths Dec 1899 ???????--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Smith William James 0 W. Derby 8b 388

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Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Smith William James 1 W. Derby 8b 567

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Regards Vera

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Arthur Jeremiah Smith
Name: Arthur Jeremiah Smith
Document Year: 1919
Regimental Number: 323865
Regiment Name: Royal Engineers
Number of images: 9

Name: Parthenia Hayburn
Birth Date: 1883
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1971
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hounslow
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1280


Her name is on incoming passenger lists on Ancestry, and on US/Canada Border Crossings......my sub doesn't stretch that far.

The recorded birth year of 1883 doesn't tie in with 1881 census...unless the one born c1877 died.........or she did what a lot of women do about their age

1891??
LEIGH, Eliza Head Widow F 58 1833 Boarding House Keeper
Moore
Lancashire VIEW
LEIGH, William Son Single M 25 1866 Joiner
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
CROPPER, Lucy Daughter Married F 22 1869
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
CROPPER, William Son In Law Married M 24 1867 Grocers Assistant
Birkenhead
Cheshire VIEW
CROPPER, Wilfred Grandson M 0 (10M) 1891
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, Arthur Nephew Single M 13 1878
Liverpool>>>>>>>>>>>
Lancashire VIEW
CROPPER, Richard Boarder Single M 22 1869 Actor
Birkenhead
Cheshire VIEW
WILDING, Joseph Boarder Single M 23 1868 Grocers Assistant
Chester
Cheshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2913 Folio:
37 Page:
1

Registration District:
Liverpool Sub District:
Mount Pleasant Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Silas

Civil Parish:
Liverpool Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
12, Brownlow Street, Liverpool County

I wonder if this is Mary?


1881 England Census
about William J. Morgan Name: William J. Morgan
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Morgan
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wavertree
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 3 Ono Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Cabinet Maker Mattress Maker

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3718
Folio: 26
Page Number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
William J. Morgan 40
Margaret Morgan 34
Mary E. Morgan 3 <<<<<<<<
William Powell 32

passenger transcript details
Name: Parthenia HAYBURN
Date of departure: 16 September 1927
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada

Date of Birth: 1883 (calculated from age)
Age: 44
Marital status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Wife
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 19





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Frederick Sandland HAYBURN Page 9 of 19 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
EMPRESS OF SCOTLAND
144375
Jas Turnball
Canadian Pacific
Quebec, Canada
14771
1150
635



Regards Vera

Name: Parthenia Hayburn
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 44
Port of Departure: New York
Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1927
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Minnetonka
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Minnetonka' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Atlantic Transport Line
Official Number: 145438

No my sub does not allow me to view those either Flick

Am I missing the point here - Lilian with her parents in 1911 or is the 1911 the wrong family ?


What is the occupation of Arthur on the birth cert ?