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Re my last post (looking for Martha Mary Walkley 1887 and her mother Mary. - Martha's mother is Mary Ann Walkley, no father. I think that Mary's mother maybe Martha Walkley b.abt. 1843 Culmstock, Devon, who married William Keeble (b.abt 1835 USA) in 1867 Culmstock, Devon. On the 1871 census there is a Mary Ann Keeble born 1867 Culmstock Devon, I cant find a birth for a Mary Ann Keeble but I can for a Mary Ann Walkley, she was born before they married in the 1st qt 1867. The marriage took place 3rd qt 1867. What do you think. Mind you I still cant place mother Mary and daughter Martha together on 1891, 1901 census, I just cant find them.

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Hi I'm trying to find Mary Martha Walkley born Wellington Devon Somerset 3rd qt 1887. I cant find her on any census. She married William J Skyrme in 1951 in East Glamorgan, Wales. They lived together for years before making it legal, they married when one of their children married. I have traced William Skyrmes family but would love to find Mary Martha Walkey's parents sibblings. I would be greatful for any help, I tried to find her on the 1891,1901 Wales and UK census but no joy. Thanks

For ref
Name: WALKLEY, Martha M
Registration District: East Glamorgan
County: Glamorganshire
Year of Registration: 1951
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Skyrme
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 807

what surname name have looked for her under? any idea when she and William got together?

the marriage cert should name her father .if known.

so she was Martha Mary not Mary Martha
Name: Martha Mary Walkley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1887
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Devon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 310

the cert will give her parents name/s

Edit Wellington reg district is Somerset

??possible 1891

WEAKLEY, George Head Married M 31 1860 Coal Miner Thornbury Gloucestershire
WEAKLEY, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 26 1865 Blaina Monmouthshire
WEAKLEY, Martha M Daughter F 5 1886 Blaina Monmouthshire
WEAKLEY, Wm George Son M 3 1888 Blaina Monmouthshire
WEAKLEY, Alfred Llewelyn Son M 0 (5M) 1891 Blaina Monmouthshire
BEDFORD, John Boarder M 28 1863 Labourer In Coal Cannonpion Herefordshire
MORRIS, Arthur Joseph Boarder M 23 1868 Haulier Buckhorn Weston Dorsetshire
RG number: RG12 Piece: 4351 Folio: 102 Page: 46

Registration District: Bedwellty Sub District: Aberystruth Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity St Peter & St John

Civil Parish: Aberystruth Municipal Borough: West Monmouth
Address: 5, Colliers Row, Aberystruth, Nant Y Glo & Blaina, West Monmouth County: Monmouthshire

Hi, we have the marriage cert and her parents are not named, they married about 40yrs after living together, will try for the birh cert, thanks for your help

Is this connected??

SKYRME, William Head Married M 73 1838 Farm Labourer Pembroke Penally VIEW
SKYRME, Mary Wife Married
40 years F 67 1844 Pembroke Castlemartin VIEW
SKYRME, Martha Daughter Single F 24 1887 Dressmaker Pembroke Castlemartin VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33157 Reference:
RG14PN33157 RG78PN1900 RD601 SD2 ED13 SN28

Registration District:
Pembroke Sub District:
Pembroke Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Castlemartin

Address:
Cold Comfort Castlemartin Pembroke County:
Pembrokeshire

Is this your William who claims to be married in 1911??


Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Skyrme William John Cardiff 11a 330



1911 census - household transcription
Person: SKYRME, William
Address: 4 Corporation Road Grangetown Cardiff


GARRATH, Harry Head Married M 32 1879 Professor Of Music Cardiff Glam VIEW
GARRATH, Annie Wife Married
5 years F 32 1879 Cardiff Glam VIEW
GARRATH, Arthur Edward Son M 4 1907 Cardiff Glam VIEW
SKYRME, William Boarder Married M 23 1888 Worker In Marine Stores Labourer Cardiff Glam VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32156 Reference:
RG14PN32156 RG78PN1847 RD588 SD4 ED24 SN16

Registration District:
Cardiff Sub District:
West Cardiff Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
Cardiff

Address:
4 Corporation Road Grangetown Cardiff County:
Glamorganshire

Im not sure but I think they are, Im helping a friend with this research, but I know alot of the Skymes in her family are from that area._ I have traced 7 generations of them for her. Its the Walkleys that have stuck.

Are the children?
George
Edgar
Douglas &
Graham

I think the 1891 census family found by Pam may be connected to this birth (so not your Martha Mary):-

Name: WAKELEY, Martha Mary
Registration District: Bedwellty
County: Monmouthshire
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 11A
Page No: 86

Kath. x

Pity the 1891 census is the wrong one will keep looking. Her fathers name would help.

We have the sons - George, Douglas and Jack - never mind thanks for all your help.

I'm not saying the 1891 census you found Pam is definitely wrong. Just that it gives the birthplace as Monmouthshire so the birth I found could be the Martha from that family.

I really think Julie Ann needs the birth certificate for Martha's parents names.

Julie Ann - are you certain that "your" Martha Mary was born in the Wellington registration district? Since she married in Glamorganshire could she have been born in Wales too?

Kath. x

how sure are you that the birth found in Wellington reg distict is your Martha . Did her death cert give a birth date ? Death certs did after c1970.

Hi the family have a birth for her as the 18.07.1887 born in Devon - and thats the birth I found so I assumed it was her. I will get back to the family for another chat. Thanks everyone

Is this her death (transcribed as SkyrNe):-

Name: SKYRNE, Martha Mary
Registration District: South Glamorgan
County: Glamorganshire
Year of Registration: 1979
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth: 18 July 1887 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Volume No: 28
Page No: 2906

Kath. x

As far as the births of the children go you have George and Douglas and the Edgar birth that Pam mentioned was actually Edgar J. so perhaps Jack was his middle name and he was known by that.

Kath. x

Is this a relation?
name: Samuel Walkley
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 42
birthplace: Culmstock, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wellington
sub-district: Wellington
parish: Wellington
county: Somersetshire

1871 census
North Street Union Workhouse, Wellington
WALKLEY, Sammel Inmate M 3 1868 Devon (still there in 1881)
WALKLEY, Jane Inmate F 11 1860 Devon
WALKLEY, Emily Inmate F 9 1862 Devon
WALKLEY, Bessie Inmate F 7 1864 Devon
WALKLEY, Sarah J Inmate F 5 1866 Devon

1891 census
Address: Maesy Bryn, Llanedarn County: Glamorganshire

WALKLEY, Samuel Servant Married M 23 1868 Farm Labourer Wellington Somersetshire