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Searching for George Mott B1698 Berners Roding/Brick End Essex who married Sarah Cass ? from Takeley Essex. This is the same family line I have been searching. I have their two children as George B Feb 1720 Stanford Rivers and Sarah B1720/21 Takeley. I cannot guarantee these are correct.

George 's parents appear to be Joseph Mott B1670 Berners Roding Essex and a Susannah Paveley ?. There is a brother Joseph B1696 at Berners Roding. I would like to find any further information about this family which is my direct line.
Pittsy

Astra

Sorry I have been away for a couple of days and I wanted to fill you in with the Noakes line. It is definitely my Emma and I have been able to find heaps of information. Your help is appreciated.

Kind regards

Pittsy

:-D

Ken

Much appreciated. I will await the result of the ERO. Also everyone I found all the censuses right up to 1911 at Genes for the William and Emma Noakes and also their children. Wonderful stuff.

Much appreciated.

Pittsy :-)

Pittsy,

It looks like there were two Alfreds, I did note the first one down but didn't post it as I was uncertain about the date which I had noted as 1? July 1830. It could have been 1 or 3. I couldn't find a death for the first one but there was an infant from Little End buried on 2 Nov 1930, which I have as Arthur but I'll recheck that next time I go to the ERO.

Ken

Astra

Yes I did some checking and you are correct Emma Mott married William Noakes 1855 West Ham. I found her in the 1871 Census which confirms her place of birth as Stanford Rivers also. Many thanks for finding this for me. I will search through all the other censuses to find out more about her. This is a real break through as I have not been able to find her for years.

Pittsy

KSE

Re this below from your earlier post
"From the Parish Register of Stanford Rivers baptisms for children of John and Mary Mott between 1830 and 1840 were:
Emma on 2 Sep 1832
Alfred on 3 Aug 1834
Ann on May 25 1837 (she was buried on 29th May)
John Mott was a carpenter and they lived at Little End (about half a mile from the village of Stanford Rivers)."

I had Alfred baptised at Little End Stanford Rivers on 3/7/1830. Would be interested in confirming this 3/8/1834 date. The entry for his death in 1883 at S Rivers gives his age at 52 so would like to find out more about this also.

Emma and Ann match what I have. The children in the family (parents John Mott Mary Holgate) were
William 1813, Mary 1815, Charles 1816, Eliza 1819 John 1820 Susannah 1822 George 1824 Joseph 1826 Frederick 1828 Alfred 1830 Emma 1831 Anne 1837

Thanks
Pittsy

Got up this morning to all this wonderful information. Many thanks. I will start sorting through it all.

Pittsy
Australia

This looks like Emma

Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)
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BURGESS Susan W Ham 4a 17
Clark Alfred W Ham 4a 17
>>MOTT Emma W Ham 4a 17
>>NOAKES William W Ham 4a 17



Emma Noakes
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Noakes
Gender: Female
Where born: Stanford Rivers, Essex, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Gate
County/Island: Essex
Household Members: Name Age
William Noakes 29 >>>>>Engine Stripper born Fifield
Emma Noakes 28
Louisa Noakes 1

Susan, according to the later census was born in Loughton but we worked out that she is the daughter of William Mott born 1814. She was with her grand parents in 1841 as William had been widowed. He re-married in 1842. It's all on page 1

From the Parish Register of Stanford Rivers baptisms for children of John and Mary Mott between 1830 and 1840 were:
Emma on 2 Sep 1832
Alfred on 3 Aug 1834
Ann on May 25 1837 (she was buried on 29th May)
John Mott was a carpenter and they lived at Little End (about half a mile from the village of Stanford Rivers).

There were two other Mott couples producing children at that time:
John & Elizabeth, John being a wheelwright of Little End
and
William & Florrie?, William being a farmer of Coleman's Farm.

There was no sign of Susan Mott born around 1839.

Sadly I think the marriage is of a different Emma Mott

1841

Name: Emma Mott
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Little Hadham
Hundred: Edwinstree
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub-registration district: Bishop Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 443
Book: 8
Folio: 19
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Mott 15

Thankyou again. I will have a look at this tomorrow - my bed is calling.

Pittsy

In 1861?? Listed as married and the wife of a carpenter

Name: Emma Brewer
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Hadham, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Little Hadham
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub-registration district: Bishop Stortford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 809
Folio: 187
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Brewer 34
Emma Brewer 1

Based on births on the IGI I think this is William and their children in 1871

Name: William Brewer
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Hadham, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Little Hadham
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub-registration district: Bishop Stortford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 1355
Folio: 207
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brewer 62
Emma Brewer 12
Tamar Brewer 7
William J Brewer 5

Parents Emma and William
. WILLIAM JOHN BREWER - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 27 MAY 1866 Little Hadham, Hertford, England
87. EMMA BREWER - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 30 OCT 1859 Little Hadham, Hertford, England
88. TAMAR BREWER - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 31 JAN 1864 Little Hadham, Hertford, England



Name: William Brewer
Father: John Brewer
Birth: 25 Dec 1809
Baptism: 21 Jan 1810 - Little Hadham, Hertfordshire, England

I cannot find Emma and William Brewar in any of the censuses ?

Pittsy

Lynski - thankyou very much.

Pittsy

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Emma Mott

England Marriages, 1538–1973


marriage: 25 Nov 1857 —Little Hadham, Hertford, England
parents: John Mott
spouse: William Brewer

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: William Brewer
bride's name: Emma Mott
marriage date: 25 Nov 1857
marriage place: Little Hadham, Hertford, England
groom's father's name: John Brewer
bride's father's name: John Mott
indexing project (batch) number: I03264-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1951858

1851 census -

EDWARDS, Jane Head Widow F 69 1782 Landed Proprietor
Chelmsford
Essex VIEW
TINDAL, Harriet J Niece Unmarried F 24 1827 No Occupation
Chelmsford
Essex VIEW
TINDAL, Adelaide Niece Unmarried F 20 1831 No Occupation
Real Del Monk Mexico British Subject VIEW
REEVE, Susan Servant Unmarried F 30 1821 Cook
Chelmsford
Essex VIEW
MOTT, Emma Servant Unmarried F 20 1831 Housemaid
Stanford Rivers
Essex VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1775 Folio:
351 Page:
16

Registration District:
Chelmsford Sub District:
Chelmsford Enumeration District:
2E Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Chelmsford Municipal Borough:
Address:
King Street, Chelmsford County:
Essex


Always consider this when looking at the 1841 census -

Note:
In the 1841 Census a policy of rounding down ages was in place.

* As such people aged:
* 15-19 were recorded as 15;
* 20-24 were recorded as 20;
* 25-29 were recorded as 25;
* 30-34 were recorded as 30;
* 35-39 were recorded as 35;

This means that Emma could have been 5-9 years old in 1841?