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HELP I'M CONFUSED

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Jacquline

Jacquline Report 20 Jun 2011 22:33

Could someone please help I have Jane Baker born 1855 netherton worcs in 1911 she is living in Bolton withdaughter mary spencer and daughter may this i know is right her married name was pugh its the bit inbetween thats confusing me i can not find a marriage for a jane baker to anyone name pugh but found a sarah jane to a joseph pugh in 1884 on the 1881 cencus they are living in stourbridge then in 1891joseph is living in bilston and jane is in the home of enoch price there is a daughter name lily price in 1891 jane is still the home of enoch in bilston with daughters lily and mary. now have i got the wrong marriage and where do all these kids come from hope someone will be able to help the more i look the more confused i get[ although it doesn't take a lot] :-)

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 20 Jun 2011 22:39

SPENCER, Richard Head Married M 26 1885 Cotton Spinner 28 Old a Bridge Bolton VIEW
SPENCER, Mary Wife Married
5 years F 26 1885 Tree Street Bilston VIEW
SPENCER, Joseph Son M 2 1909 55 Old Road Astley Bridge Bolton VIEW
SPENCER, Mary Jane Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 17 Rix St Bolton VIEW
PUGH, Jane Mother Married
40 years F 56 1855 At Home Chell St Bilston VIEW
PUGH, May Sister Single F 16 1895 Winder In Cotton Mill Tree Street Bilston VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23385 Reference:
RG14PN23385 RG78PN1365 RD461 SD7 ED1 SN83

Registration District:
Bolton Sub District:
Little Bolton Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Bolton

Address:
11 Raby Street Bolton

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Jun 2011 22:41

Puzzled already

Where does birth place of Netherton come into this as not listed as that in 1911

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 20 Jun 2011 22:46

thank you lindsey I had already looked at the 1911 cencus

on the 1861 cencus glitter baby

Barbara

Barbara Report 20 Jun 2011 22:54

To narrow the search on the 1911 states married 40 years and looks like to mother of Richard Spencer as I think if mother of Mary it would state mother in law

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jun 2011 22:55

Gosh, no disrespect Jacquline but your request is one big long sentence.........

It would make easier reading perhaps if you spaced it out. PH.

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 20 Jun 2011 23:04

Hi Barbara no jane was definatley mary's mother

sorry ph just tried to get it all down in a rush

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jun 2011 23:16

No worries..............but i think that is why we are also confused!! :-S

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jun 2011 23:44

You say Jane Baker was born 1855 in Worcestershire.

You believe she is Jane Pugh in 1911 ... but that Jane has birthplace as Bilston Staffordshire.

This is Mary Pugh's marriage - it would give you her father

Marriages Jun 1906 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bishop Alice Maud Bolton 8c 811
FRAY Norman Cartledge Bolton 8c 811
.........Pugh Mary - Bolton 8c 811
.........Spencer Richard - Bolton 8c 811

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 20 Jun 2011 23:49

ok Jane baker born netherton appox 1855
married ? pugh
1891 living as a servent in the home of enoch price
1901 living n the home of enock in bilston as a housekeeper
1911 living with daughter mary spencer in bolton
there is a sarah jane baker married to joseph pugh in 1884 and on the 1881 cencus they are living in stourbridge there is a visitor margaret baker and jane had a sister of that name which made me think that this was the right one but was she registered as sarah and just used jane?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 20 Jun 2011 23:50

Also on 1901. She's widowed.

1901 England Census
Name: Jane Pugh
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Netherton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Bilston
Piece: 2689
Folio: 120
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Enoch Price 42
Enoch Price 19
Jane Pugh 49
Lily Pugh 19 - Boarder; born Bilston
Mary A Pugh 17 - Boarder; born Bilston

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jun 2011 23:50

There is this marriage ...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1868

.............Baker Jane - Lambeth 1d 533
CHANTLER Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 533
Dolden John Lambeth 1d 533
............Pugh Henry Pridden - Lambeth 1d 533

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jun 2011 23:52

Deaths Sep 1879 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pugh Henry Pridden - 38- Lambeth 1d 267

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 21 Jun 2011 00:05

thanks ozibird being widowed would tie in with the death of joseph pugh as he died in 1896

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 21 Jun 2011 00:09

hi mike jane in bolton was definatly the right one because her daughter mary used to visit when i was small
don't think the lambeth ones are right thanks anyway

Mike *

Mike * Report 21 Jun 2011 00:11

1884 marriage to Joseph can't be right....
in 1911 she states married for 40 years.

Your best bet is to buy the marriage cert of daughter Mary and see who she names as her father.

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 21 Jun 2011 00:17

thanks i'll do that
jackie

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Jun 2011 00:24

Where did you get the name Baker?

Marriages Sep 1880
FARMER Laura Wolverhampton 6b 615
GORMAN Anthony Wolverhampton 6b 615
Price Enoch Wolverhampton 6b 615 <<<<<<<<
Pugh Sarah Jane Wolverhampton 6b 615 <<<<<<<<

Perhaps Jane was a relative.

patchem

patchem Report 21 Jun 2011 06:44

Which person is your ancestor, and what certificates have you got to have proof of the connections?
Thanks.

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 21 Jun 2011 07:12

Hi Jane Baker was my gt gt aunt she was my gt grandmothers sister
jackie