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hi ozibird, I found a marriage for sarah jane baker to joseph pugh in march 1884 perhaps the sarah who married enoch was a relative of joseph but on all the cencus's jane was down as jane and not sarah jane
but as you can see from 1911 she was definatley name pugh i will have to get mary's marriage cert to find out her fathers name then i will know who jane married
thanks for your help
jackie

According to 1911 census, Jane Pugh is married, ( for 40 years) it doesn't say widowed.

that means she would have been married really young and on cencus she is at the home of enoch price and no husband in sight don't think i'm going to get to the bottom of this
thanks Jackie

nudge

??? Wild one. The EDIT Wood children are said to be brother and sister in law of William. Could be children of Jane who may have married prior to marriage to William.

William Pugh and Jane Wood married in 1881

1881 England Census
about Jane Pugh Name: Jane Pugh
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Pugh
Gender: Female
Where born: Whampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Beacon St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:


Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2802
Folio: 38
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
William Pugh 25
Jane Pugh 27
William Pugh 3
Charles Pugh
Harry Wood 12
Alice Wood 9

Vera

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Pugh Name: William Pugh
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1881
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 900 (click to see others on page)

William Pugh Oct-Nov-Dec 1881 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Kate Smith Oct-Nov-Dec 1881 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Jane Wood Oct-Nov-Dec 1881 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
William Henry Yates Oct-Nov-Dec 1881 Wolverhampton Staffordshire

Vera

thanks for that but janes maiden name was baker
jackie

I know that Jacqueline. Just thought Jane may have squeezed in a marriage before William Pugh and the Wood children were hers not the in laws.

The 1911 rcord says she had been married for 40 years ie when she was aged 15. Or perhaps too far fetched to fit! Need the marriage cert as you say.

Regards

Vera

thanks vera if it doesn't say widowed it couldn't have been joseph as he was dead by then i can not find a marriage for jane baker at all
regards
jackie

Jacqueline, where is your Jane on the 1861 census, and who with?

in 1871 she is with her parents james and ann baker in staffordshire

What was your great-grandmother's sister name? Have you found them together with their parents?

Ozi

Hi my great grandmother was name martha, jane was her sister thier parents were james and ann other children were hannah mary edward richard and margaret

jackie

Jacqueline is this your Jane and family?

1861 England Census
about Jane Baker Name: Jane Baker
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Baker - Engineman - Coal ?
Mother's name: Ann Baker
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Rowley Regis
Ecclesiastical parish: Reddal Hill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: - Windmill End
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 2039
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
James Baker 32
Ann Baker 34
Hannah Baker 11
Mary Baker 9
Jane Baker 6
Edwar Baker 6
Richard Baker 2 MO


1871 England Census
about Jane Baker Name: Jane Baker
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Baker -Engineer
Mother's name: Ann Baker
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradley
Town: Brierley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address - Stoke Street
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Household schedule number: 168
Piece: 3007
Folio: 115
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
James Baker 40
Ann Baker 41
Mary Baker 18
Jane Baker 16
Jane Baker 16 - Mistranscribe for Edward
Martha Baker 5
Margaret Baker 3
Peter Hughes 19

Vera

sorry so long answering been to work thanks vera yes that is the family
regards Jackie

did think jane and edward were twins but can not find a birth so don't know if she was registered as jane or sarah jane

???
Births Mar 1855
Baker James Edward Dudley 6c 107
Baker Sarah Jane Dudley 6c 107

Same page so most likely twins as registered at same time.

thanks ozibird that certainly sounds like them, seems like they both used their middle names i'll get the birth certs to see if they are the correct ones born to james and ann
regards jackie

nudge

ok got certifcates now joseph was sarah janes husband he died in 1896 so she should have been widowed on 1911 cencus.
the only cencus that jane and joseph are together on is 1881
on 1891 and 1901 she is at the home of enoch price and on 1891 joe is at home with a load of kids but where are they in 1901 after he had died?
any help much appriecated
Jackie