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Good evening all,
I have an ancestor by the name of Benjamin Pagett who married Sarah Lane at St Michaels, Lichfield on February 16th 1801, Is there any way I can find out where they hailed from or who there parents were ?? there are a few possibilities that I have come across on the IGI ( two Bens and Sarahs in the same area born in the same time ) but can see no definitive link to either. Forgive me for next comment as I do not wish it to sound as rude as it may come across, but my main line I am chasing is the Paget line so any help anyone could give would be most appreciated ( not wishing to offend anyone called Lane who may be able to help :-D )
Thanks in advance
Gavin

Were they still alive in 1841 or 1851?
If so where and what was their occupation.
It might be possible to find them in census and get clues there.

Gwyn

Do any of their children's names give you a clue? Are they named after grandparents?

Ozi

This is the best match for Sarah

2. SARAH LANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 JUN 1772 Saint Michael, Lichfield, Stafford, England


None of the Benjamin Pagett records are in the immediate area

Andy

Apologies,
I am unsure of either occupation, and the first born seem to be named after the parents, Benjamins dad could be a Benjamin from a leap of faith on another igi search I have done ?????

Benjamin Pagett
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 16 Feb 1801 —Saint Michael, Lichfield, Stafford, England
spouse: Sarah Lane

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Benjamin Pagett
bride's name: Sarah Lane
marriage date: 16 Feb 1801
marriage place: Saint Michael,Lichfield,Stafford,England
indexing project (batch) number: M04871-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 421568

Thanks Andy,
there are two other Sarahs in 1776 and I am thinking the only way I can pin anyone or them down is via the marriage record to Ben in 1801 hopefully showing the parents names. Any suggestions on a better course of action ? Still new to all this and hoping to hopefulyy find a " route one " method from a seasoned geneologist :-)

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Benjamin PAGETT Head W Male 72 Kinver, Stafford, England Agricul Labourer
Ann PAGETT Daur U Female 47 Enville, Stafford, England Housekeeper Dom


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Source Information:
Dwelling High Street
Census Place Kinver, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341668
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2790 / 46
Page Number 9

Thanks Ann,
could this be from the census as there was child called Ann born in 1811, would make Ben the right age with this in mind. Also, as an aside, have you ever came across a middle or christion name of bagger ?? one other confusing issue of this tree..

Thanks

Gavin

The Paget Family
Thomas, Lord Paget (d. 1590), was frequently resident in Burton, especially from c. 1573. (fn. 5) With him came all the trappings of a great noble household: visits of musicians from Leicester, Stone, and Uttoxeter; (fn. 6) of the choirmen from Lichfield cathedral; (fn. 7) and of players from other households, including that of Sir George Hastings. (fn. 8) A Twelfth Night masque was performed in 1580. (fn. 9) Paget's presence in Burton tightened his grip on the town, especially its religious life, and as an ardent recusant he sought to promote Roman Catholicism, employing recusants as his household servants and even providing mass wafers rather than ordinary white bread for the celebration of communion in the parish church. He patronized William Byrd, the church-papist composer, who stayed in Burton in 1580; Byrd's room over the gatehouse then had a pair of virginals. (fn. 10) Paget also had a private choir at Burton which, though it provided secular entertainment, probably also sang mass for the household. (fn. 11)
In the early 1580s Paget's household at Burton became entangled in the plotting around Mary, Queen of Scots, then imprisoned in various locations in Yorkshire and Derbyshire. (fn. 12) After involvement in the Throckmorton Plot Paget fled abroad in 1583; he was attainted for treason and died at Brussels, and his English estates, including Burton, were forfeited to the Crown. In 1586, while Mary was imprisoned at Chartley in Staffordshire, the government, seeking evidence of her complicity in plotting against Queen Elizabeth, placed a brewer, William Nicholson, in the former abbey precinct in Burton. He gained Mary's trust, conveying letters to and from her hidden in beer barrels, but revealed them to her keeper, so implicating her in Anthony Babington's plot to assassinate Elizabeth and place Mary on the English throne. (fn. 13) Babington, a minor Derbyshire gentleman and an ardent Roman Catholic, had been known to Lord Paget and had stayed at least one night c. 1583 in a Burton inn kept by one of Paget's servants. (fn. 14) Ensnared by Nicholson's evidence, Mary was taken from Chartley to her trial and execution at Fotheringhay castle (Northants.), spending the night of 21 September 1586 at Burton on the way. (fn. 15)

From: 'Burton-upon-Trent: General history', A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 9: Burton-upon-Trent (2003), pp. 5-20. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=12328 Date accessed: 28 June 2011.
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Checked 1841 census and no Pagetts in Lichfield area (I live locally)
The records in the Enville/Kinver area are a good 20-25 miles away.

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Benjamin Pagett
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Enville, Stafford, England
parents: Samuel Pagett, Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Benjamin Pagett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Aug 1782
baptism/christening place: Enville, Stafford, England
father's name: Samuel Pagett
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C16630-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470946

Thanks Andy,
I believe they all moved onto Womridge where the children olf Banjamin And Sarah were all born so that could explain there absence in the future census entries.

Cheers

Thanks Andy,
I believe they all moved onto Womridge where the children olf Banjamin And Sarah were all born so that could explain there absence in the future census entries.

Cheers

Gavin, the census AGG found was 1881. Therefore not old enough to be your Benjamin. Remote possibility he is a son.

This is the same Ben in 1871 & 1861.

1871 England Census
Name: Benjamin Paggett
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kinver
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Kinfare
Street Address: The Comber

Occupation: Labourer at Iron Works

Piece: 2928
Folio: 58
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Paggett 60
Rosanna Chambers 11 - granddaughter
Ann Thatcher 39 - no relationship recorded; washerwoman
Mercy Harris 69 - lodger



1861 England Census
Name: Benjamin Pagett
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Pagett
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinfare, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kinfare
Ecclesiastical parish: Kinfare
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: The Forest

Occupation: Labourer at Iron Works

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Kinfare
Piece: 1985
Folio: 49
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Pagett 51
Hannah Pagett 50
George Pagett 17 - son
Rosanna Chambers 1 - grandaughter
Anne Thatcher 28 - wife's daughter

WOW Ann,
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