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Thank you Margaret for your response. I'm afraid I know little more. The name Sheedy doesn't mean anything to me but then again who knows!!!!

Pleased to see that you found your Mary CARROLL. I too am researching in Fethard in Co. Tipperary and did a trip over there 4 yrs ago. Did see a CARROLL's PICTURE FRAMING shop in the main street opposite McCarthy's Pub.
SHEEDY's are somehow connected to CAROLL's. The Margaret CARROLL in the 1901 Census had a son James SHEEDY (Killed in 1916 - First World War) so I guess it's possible she may have been married to a SHEEDY previously. Good Luck.

I've got the marriage certificate now.
Mary Carroll married Joseph Tonks at Pembroke Register office on 10/11/1883. She was 20 and a Domestic Servant in South Park Street Penbroke Dock and he was a privatein the Royal Welch Fusiliers and aged 22. His address was Hut Encampment, Pembroke Dock. His father was Joseph Tonks - Blacksmith which would accord with what I know of him.
Mary's father is listed as John Carroll - labourer.

Yes thank you I have those census results. I will send off for a copy of the marriage certificate today for the one in Wednesbury and see what that comes up with and let you know. Thanks for the help.
Lorraine

Lorraine

Tonks Family - 1901 UK Census
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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TONKS, Joseph Head Married M 40 1861 Labourer Gas Maker
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
TONKS, Mary Wife Married F 38 1863
Fethard County Tipperary
TONKS, John J Son Single M 17 1884 Mill Worker
Templemere County Tipperary
TONKS, Mary A Daughter F 15 1886
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
TONKS, Johana Daughter F 13 1888
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
TONKS, Willie Son M 11 1890
Wednesbury, Staffordshire
TONKS, Martin Son M 7 1894
Wednesbury, Staffordshire
TONKS, Eliza Daughter F 4 1897
Wednesbury, Staffordshire
TONKS, Richard T Son M 1 (18 MOS) 1900
Wednesbury, Staffordshire
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2726 Folio:
107 Page:
26

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Wednesbury Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
28, Portway Road, Wednesbury County: Staffordshire

Suzanne

Lorraine,

Found this marriage on free bmd.... You need someone on here who has credits/subs to view these marriages & see if your couple match.

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)

BRACE John Pembroke 11a1522
CARROLL Mary Pembroke 11a 1522
Ellis Lydia Pembroke 11a 1522
TONKS Joseph Pembroke 11a 1522

Suzanne

I'm not sure if Joseph was in the army although its quite possible as my granddad (William Haywood) and his brother (James I think) were in the South Staffs and then Coldstream Guards. Johanna was my grandmother's name (Johanna Haywood nee Tonks) so that name would fit for a family name.

I know you're right about needing to get the marriage cert, but this birth caught my eye because the mother's forename was Johanna. I realise it's probably just a co-incidence...

Unfortunately it doesn't state WHERE in Tipperary the birth took place...

Name: Mary Carroll
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 25 May 1867
Birthplace: Tipperary, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Redmond Carroll
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Johanna Walsh
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01179-4
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101147
Reference Number: v 8-2 p 548

Lorraine...Do you know if Joseph was in the army at any time....?

Kucinta...Thank you for the Census....!!!

Name: Joseph Tonks
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Tonks
Gender: Male
Where born: Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Tonks 30 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
Mary Tonks 27 Tipperary, Ireland
John Joseph Tonks 6 Temple; More, Ireland
Mary Ann Tonks 4 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
Johanna Tonks 3 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
William Tonks Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England

Lorraine...I have had a quick scan through the Census Index 1891 and see there is a John b 1885 "Temple"..Ireland.....I take that to be Templemore...
This is followed by a Mary b 1887 Wed. so It may suggest the Marriage may well have been in Ireland....I havent been able to find one as yet but its early days..

Ok thanks you I will give that a try!
Lorraine

Lorraine...We are all novices when starting off so thats no problem...just keep asking away....the more questions the better....!!!

What I would do first if you dont have an idea of where they married is to locate the family (for ref.) on the earliest Census in Wed....They are not on the 1881 but they are on 1891...I dont know if you can access that with your subs. to the site ..(I cant) but I am sure someone will do it for you if you ask...

The forst child I have located is Joannes born 1888 Wed. followed by Wm.1890 Kath. 1892 Martin 1893.
So you need to see if any children are listed as born earlier than Joannes ..and where....a case of trying to work out where they married by elimination....Does that make sense..??
Of course you have to take into consideration any earlier children may have died...

So far I have one of two marriages it could be on doing a search of BMD website. Either 1883 in Pembroke 11a 1522 or 1882 in West Bromwich 6b 1112, although I'm leaning more towards West Bromwich since that would be closer to Wednesbury - if they didn't marry in Ireland. Would sending off for that be essential then? As you can see I'm a novice!

Lorraine...The MC is essential to give info.as to who the fathers' were...do you know where/when they were married....

Thank you. Can't say if it rings any bells as I have no information on her unfortunately but this is a start!
Lorraine

Hi


Census Years1901 Tipperary Fethard Fethard Town Cashel

Road Residents of a house
Residents of a house 7 in Cashel Road (Fethard Fethard Town, Tipperary)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Carroll John 40 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Tipperary Railway Servant Cannot read - Married -
Carroll Margaret 44 Female Wife Roman Catholic Tipperary General Servant Read and write - Married -
Carroll Mary 15 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Carroll Ellie 12 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Carroll Kattie 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Sheedy James 24 Male Step Son Roman Catholic Tipperary Gardener Read and write - Not Married -
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Found This family in Fethard, Tipperary - ring any bells with you?

Suzanne

No I haven't. I could try to get it if it helps further.

Thank You...
Have you got her marriage cert...?
Would give you respective fathers names...