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u are good vera thank u so much .....

fantasic work .... :-D :-D
thanks to my ladies :-D

u are good vera thank u so much .....

fantasic work .... :-D :-D
thanks to my ladies :-D

Correction for Fanny for Florence L. Thomas bootshop manager

1891 Wales Census
about Bathalesba Edwards Name: Bathalesba Edwards
[Bathsheba Edwards]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Edwards
Gender: Female
Where born: Newton, Montgomeryshire, Wales
[Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales]

Civil parish: Pool Middle
Ecclesiastical parish: Welshpool St Marys
Town: Welshpool
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Welshpool
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4597
Folio: 87
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Edwards 26
Bathalesba Edwards 26
Fanny L Edwards 8

Vera

Original ref 6a 1101

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Edwards Name: Thomas Edwards
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1886
Registration district: Atcham
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 7&f5=6a">1[14]01 (click to see others on page)

Vera

ok yes i see thanks mejoy :-D

No, she is buried with her father, see page 1

Helen and mejoy

and Elizabeth morgan b 1888 qld... charles daughter did she ever marry!!

:-D :-D

Helen/Mejoy
any thing on gwendoline bathshebas husband

d,Brown Gwendoline Bathsheba 16 / 09 / 1992 75 years
:-D

mejoy
this is what i thought with Charles ... 2 old they might have bump up there ages..

but marriage could be a very possibility as she would have been 18
good work
i would hate to get cert and find out its not her...but the more i look at its

more and more like her especially if atchem is on the boundaries of montgomery
thanks mejoy
and Helen finding the birth of Gwendoline Bathsheba
and naming the baby after his sister....so cleaver Helen
:-D :-D

Dont' think she is yours, too old

Surname: Morgan
Name: Bathsheba
Age: 30 years
Ship: Duke of Westminster
Arrival Date: 11 June, 1886

????? possible marriage of Bathsheba, unfortunately only 1 male name listed, hopefully someone can find other person!

Marriage Sep 1886 (>99%)

Surname Names District Vol Page
Coward Frank Atcham 6a 1101
>>>>>>>>>Morgan Bathsheba Atcham 6a 1101
Smith Fanny Elizabeth A Atcham 6a 1101

Atcham spans the boundaries of the counties of Montgomery and Shropshire

Joy

VERA..thanks so much will have a look see first on Ancestry

and Bathsheba i have her birth which is the sibling of Thomas Charles, Benjamin and martin
if she came with one of her brothers Australia we would have found a death marriage....and i haven't found her yet....
this ones a hard one
i wonder if she come with Charles on the duke of Westminster which one of the other ladies sent me on gr.... will have a look :-) thanks vera 2010

As Bathsheba not with Elizabeth in 1881, could this be her?

1881 England Census
about Bathsheba Morgan Name: Bathsheba Morgan
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Gender: Female
Where born: Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: Village Home For Orphan Neglect & Destitute Girls
Education:

Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Ilford
ED, institution, or vessel: Village Home for Orphan Neglected and Destitute
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1747
Folio: 93
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Leigh 44
Ellen Rouse 14
Grace Adams 14
Bathsheba Morgan 13

plus many more


Vera

Couple of trees that stand out on Ancestry

vlcw01 and 100wishs

Both seem to concentrate on Martin

One has Elizabeth Thomas married to John Morgan the other has her with Thomas or David Morgan.

100wishs has two photographs added - one of Martin and another of headstones of Martin and Ann Jones

Can pass your e mail onto them if you have not already had contact.

Vera

thanks joy

Further to John's death, you can download his record to your computer, the records have where he is buried and other details. His Service No. is 2868

What certificate are you going to order?

If it's birth, marriage, etc you are best to go to General Register Office they cost £9.25 incl. postage. G.R. charge more

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Joy

Mejoy75
yes
but the fathers name is not David ..as i had thought in the first place...
im now sure that its a possibility that its Charles.......or like u said ..all have different fathers then we will never know...wen i was fist researching my family it came up as David on find FIND MY PAST ...so silly me,, went and ordered the death cert and put David down as father .i should have left the form blank........i know , but we all make mistakes, just some worst then others ....the reason im saying that its not David .. ..as there isn't a name David running thru this family...no child is named David any where...Thanks for the other info on john...
i have the birth of Bathsheba...but no death and some one in my family (living) said they thought Bathsheba died young.. i have never been able to find a death of her..qld bdm also said that the death might not have been registered..
and now i have a death of john...i knew he had gone to war....so thats all coming together
except elzabeths husband...i will search the census and see if there is a charles thomas...on an earler census other then 1881..... thanks mejoy75
great work.
:-D
Mejoy how do i order a certificate on GR..

spiderlegs,

Bathsheba's birth

1898/C3402 Bathsheba Maud Morgan Martin Ann

If you go to recordsearch.naa.gov.au

you will find that John Llewellyn son of Martin & Anne was Killed in Action at Belgium in WW1 on the 16th June, 1917

Joy

spiderlegs,

It looks like all the children took their mothers surname. Hopefully, Vera will have some luck with the family on Ancestry.

Are you saying that you amended the death certificate of Martin, and put David as his father! If so, how did you do that?

Just for ref 1881 Census, it's free to check

Name: Morgan, Elizabeth head
Female
Age:53
Yr of Birth: 1828
Occupation: Housekeeper
Where Born: Newtown, Montgomery, Wales

also
Morgan, Benjamin son 20 yrs
Morgan, Charles son 17 yrs

both general labourers and born at Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomery, Wales

address: Syars Yard, Llanllwchaiarn


Joy

Err. I'll read that again! There is a chap on Ancestry who has connections with your family. May be the one your referring to. Seems like a friendly fellow. I'll take a look and see what he's got.

Vera

Vera
that is her....this is the info that was sent to me from a chap in wales who was visiting the cemetery as his family came from there...he saw my add and answered it ...nice man..
these are Elizabeth age 33 ..her parents but im trying to find out as well as a lot of other stuff about the Morgans
i have a death cert of martin ..elizabeth's son but no fathers name
when i applied for the death in Queensland i knew the mother's name but not the father.so i went to find my past..it was free then to search... not like now))
and i found a David ..lots of Thomas so i put david on the form when it said fathers name...stupid me .i didn't realized until it was 2 late what i had done after i posted it... when i find his real name i will rectify it....
so no dramas there....Mejoy75 thinks the children could have different fathers
and she could be right....otherwise why isn't he around..but then again he could have been on the road and come home to roost every now and again ...
mmmm we will never know....any nice English researchers around
thanks vera..nice name :-D