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John Morris Morralley

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Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 09:59

1881 census for Ellen -

JAY, Richard Head Married M 38 1843 General Lab
Lydney Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Emma Wife Married F 28 1853
Burnett Somerset VIEW
JAY, George Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Chewton Keynsham Somerset VIEW
JAY, Eliza Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Lydney Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Charles E Son Single M 3 1878
Keynsham Somerset VIEW
JAY, Ellen L Daughter Single F 0 1881
Chewton Keynsham Somerset VIEW
BURGE, Caroline Lodger Single F 20 1861 General Serv
Ausford Castle Carey Somerset VIEW

RG number: RG11 Piece: 2449 Folio: 60 Page: 16
Registration District: Keynsham Sub District: Keynsham Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Keynsham Municipal Borough:
Address: Fairfield Terrace, Keynsham County: Somersetshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:01

1891 census for Richard Jay -

JAY, Richard E Head Married M 49 1842 Builders Labourer
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Emma Wife Married F 38 1853
Bristol Somersetshire VIEW
JAY, George Son Single M 19 1872 Apprentice
Bristol Somersetshire VIEW
JAY, Charles E Son Single M 13 1878 Scholar
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Catherine M Daughter Single F 8 1883 Scholar
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Sarah A Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, May H F Daughter Single F 2 1889
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
HOPES, Elizabeth A Boarder Single F 0 (9M) 1891
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW

RG number: RG12 Piece: 1964 Folio: 113 Page: 9
Registration District: Bristol Sub District: St Augustine
Enumeration District: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Augustine
Civil Parish: Bristol Municipal Borough: Bristol
Address: 3, Ross Court, Colston Street, Bristol County: Gloucestershire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:04

It looks as though the 1891 census found previously is not right if her father was Richard?

In 1891 census Ellen is not with Richard which would fit in with the hospital entry.

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 10:06

Lynkski you AMAZING person!! where did you find this???!

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:06

1901 census for Richard Jay -

JAY, George Head Married M 29 1872 Masons Labourer
Chewton Keynsham Somersetshire VIEW
JAY, Mary A Wife Married F 28 1873
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Louisa Daughter Single F 6 1895 School
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, George Son Single M 4 1897 School
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Albert E Son Single M 3 1898 School
Bristol Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Richard Father-In-Law Married M 62 1839 Builders Labourer Lydney Gloucestershire VIEW
JAY, Emma Mother-In-Law Married F 48 1853
Chewton Keynsham Somersetshire VIEW
JAY, Catharine Sister-In-Law F 18 1883
Bristol VIEW
JAY, May Sister-In-Law F 12 1889 School
Bristol VIEW

RG number: RG13 Piece: 2373 Folio: 77 Page: 20
Registration District: Bristol Sub District: St Augustine
Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: St James
Civil Parish: Bristol Municipal Borough:
Address: 60, Eugene Street, Bristol County: Gloucestershire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:07

1911 census -

JAY, Richard Head Married M 73 1838 Retired General Labourer Abberton Glos VIEW
JAY, Emma Wife Married 38 years F 58 1853 Burnett Somerset VIEW
JAY, Charles Son Single M 33 1878 Coal Haulier Keynsham Somerset VIEW
HOULKER, May Daughter Married F 22 1889 Sewing Machinist Tailoring Trousers Bristol Glos VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14999 Reference: RG14PN14999 RG78PN906 RD319 SD6 ED2 SN160

Registration District: Bristol Sub District: St Philip and St Jacob Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Bristol

Address: 90 St Werburgh's Park County: Gloucestershire


Original states 9 children born, 2 died

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:09

I found details of the marriage on familysearch.org.

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 10:42

Im very confused with 1901 census..

George Jay is married to Mary A Jay.

The relationship to the head with Richard and Emma Jay are in-laws.

So im taking it that George Jay isnt there son?
but isnt that s bit of a coincidence that both of there surnames are the same? and that is the same name as his son?

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 10:48

I found George and Mary's marriage certificate.

George Jay
Year of Marriage 1893
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Keynsham
Registration County Somerset
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912

Spouse Match

George Jay married one of the people below:

Florence HAWKINS
Mary Jane ANSTEY
Albert KIBBEY


but how come Richard is an in-law to George the head of the household when its his son?

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:53

Here they are in 1911 census -

JAY, George Head Married M 40 1871 Mason Chewton Keynsham Somerset VIEW
JAY, Mary Ann Wife Married
18 years F 38 1873 Bristol VIEW
JAY, Mary Lousia Daughter Single F 16 1895 Servant Bristol VIEW
JAY, George Son M 14 1897 Errand Boy Bristol VIEW
JAY, Albert Son M 13 1898 School Bristol VIEW
JAY, Charles Stanley Son M 5 1906 School Bristol VIEW
JAY, Hilda Daughter F 4 1907 Bristol VIEW
JAY, Phillis Rhoda Daughter F 1 1910 Bristol VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14921 Reference:
RG14PN14921 RD319 SD3 ED37 SN386

Registration District:
Bristol Sub District:
Bedminster Enumeration District:
37 Parish:

Address:
6 Mary St Bedminster County:
Gloucestershire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:54

The 1901 census could be transcribed incorrectly. The information could have been given by Mary Ann??

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 10:59

There is also this marriage which is actually for Mary Ann and matches more accurately??

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
Caple Mary Ann M Bristol 6a 12
Jay George Bristol 6a 12

The certificate would tell you who the father's are?

Better still, familysearch has done it again -

George Jay

England Marriages, 1538–1973


marriage: 27 Aug 1892 —St. George-Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucester, England
parents: Richard Jay
spouse: Mary Ann May Caple

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: George Jay
bride's name: Mary Ann May Caple
marriage date: 27 Aug 1892
marriage place: St. George-Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name: Richard Jay
bride's father's name: James May
indexing project (batch) number: M17094-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596357

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:05

#
Waldemar Jay
England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
residence: 11 Sep 1896 —Gloucestershire, Bristol, St George Brandon Hill
parents: George Jay, Mary Ann Jay
record title: England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
name: Waldemar Jay
event: CHRISTENING
event date: 11 Sep 1896
event place: Bristol, St George Brandon Hill, Gloucestershire, England
father: George Jay
mother: Mary Ann Jay
digital folder number: 4194393

#
Mary Louisa Jay
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Bristol, Gloucester, England
parents: George Jay, Mary Ann
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Louisa Jay
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 19 Jul 1895
baptism/christening place: St. George-Brandon Hill, Bristol, Gloucester, England
father's name: George Jay
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01630-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596352

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:12

Still looking for John Morris Moralley and his father Hugh Uriah Moralley???

Haven't found them in the census yet?

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:30

There is a tree on Ancestry that has Hugh Uriah Moralley in it and if the tree owner is correct then Uriah (born c1828) in 1841 census is Hugh's father -

MORALLE, James M 35 1806 VIEW
MORALLE, Pheby F 35 1806 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Uriah M 13 1828 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Elizabeth F 10 1831 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Mathew M 8 1833 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Ann F 6 1835 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, William M 4 1837 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Michael M 2 1839 Flintshire VIEW
MORALLE, Mary F 1 1840 Flintshire VIEW

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1410 Book/Folio: 12/36 Page: 8
Registration District: Holywell Sub District: Mold Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Mold Municipal Borough:
Mold Address: Wrexham Street, Mold County: Flintshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:36

1861 census -

I think that Urias born in 1851 is actually Hugh Uriah Moralley because the tree on Ancestry has his born c1851.

MORRALLEE, Urias Head Married M 35 1826 Peddler
Mold Kent VIEW
MORRALLEE, Margaret Wife Married F 36 1825
Denbigh Llanrwst VIEW
MORRALLEE, Pheby Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Scholar
Montgomery Pennant VIEW
MORRALLEE, Urias Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar
Montgomery Llanrhaiadr VIEW
MORRALLEE, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 6 1855 Scholar
Montgomery Llanrhaiadr VIEW

RG number: RG09 Piece: 4265 Folio: 1 Page: 4
Registration District: Llanfyllin Sub District: 3 Llanrhaiadr Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Cefn Coch Municipal Borough:
Address: Plough Row, Cefn Coch County: Montgomeryshire

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:39

1851 census -

JONES, Anne Head Unmarried F 56 1795 Lodging House Keeper Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Hannah Servant Unmarried F 50 1801 House Servant Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
JOB, Evan Lodger Widower M 60 1791 Weaver (Flannel)
Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
PRICE, Thomas Lodger Unmarried M 68 1783 Pauper (Formerly Ag Lab) Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
DANIEL, Thomas Lodger Married M 47 1804 Nailor
St Merthir Tidfil Glamorganshire VIEW
DANIEL, Sarah Lodger Married F 48 1803 Nailors Wife
Manchester Lancashire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Urias Lodger Married M 26 1825 Pedlar
Mold Flintshire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Margaret Lodger Married F 26 1825 Pedlar Wife
Llanrwst Denbighshire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Phoebe Lodger F 2 1849 Pedlar Child
Llanidloes Montgomeryshire VIEW
MORRALLEE, Urias Lodger M 0 (5 MOS) 1851 Pedlar Child Penybont Montgomeryshire VIEW
YANSTAN, John Lodger Married M 45 1806 Said To Be A Tailor
Ireland Cork VIEW
YANSTAN, Mary Lodger Married F 47 1804 Tailors Wife
Carmarthen Carmarthenshire VIEW
YANSTAN, James Lodger M 10 1841 Tailors Child
Carmarthen Carmarthenshire VIEW
YANSTAN, Thomas Lodger M 0 (7 MOS) 1851 Tailors Child Carmarthen Carmarthenshire VIEW
SMITH, Joseph Lodger Married M 51 1800 Rag Dealer
Aldgate London VIEW
SMITH, Margaret Lodger Married F 48 1803 Rag Dealer Wife
Aldgate London VIEW
POTTER, John Lodger Married M 35 1816 Said To Be A Hatter
Oldham Lancashire VIEW
POTTER, Hanah Lodger Married F 35 1816 Said To Be A Hatter
Oldham Lancashire VIEW

RG number: HO107 Piece: 2496 Folio: 233 Page: 10
Registration District: Newton Sub District: Llanidloes Lower Enumeration District: 1C Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Llanidloes Municipal Borough: Llanidloes
Address: Church Street, Llanidloes County: Montgomeryshire

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 11:41

brilliant!! I am mainly looking for the Morralley tree. No one in our family have ever been able to get far..

just out of interest in the Jay family it says Emma Jay lost 2 children is there anyway to find that out?? it says they were born? i was wondering if it was one of the 7 children i have in my tree?

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Jul 2011 11:46

I think that this is the marriage of John Morris Morralley's (1879) parents -

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
Morrallee Uriah Llanfyllin 11b 265
Morris Jane Llanfyllin 11b 265

Nadine

Nadine Report 15 Jul 2011 11:51

Fantastic!!!!! All our family spell our last name Morralley apart from my father and his wife and children who spell is Morrallee.

Its believed that the original spelling is Morralley but a groom on his wedding day was very nervous and had a drink to 'steady his nerves' but ended up drinking too much and signing his name wrong on the registar.

if the story is true it may look like Uriah was the nervous groom!!