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It's a very old thread Andrew- you could click on Angela's name and send her a message.

Just to add to the original question on this thread, Donald married Joan Robertson in 1951 Dundee.

Dundee Courier - Monday 03 September 1951 (with photo of the bride)

Dundee doctor is Bride

Two bridesmaids attended Dr Joan Robertson, youngest daughter of Mr and Mrs Walter Robertson, 4 Caenlochan Road, Broughty Ferry, when she was married in Dundee Parish Church (St Mary's) on Saturday.

Her groom was Mr Donald Whelan, only son of the late Mr and Mrs S. P. Whelan, Thornton Heath, Surrey, and superintendent of Manor Hospital, Derby. D r Robertson, who is graduate of St Andrews University, favoured a dress of ivory damask grosgrain, the full skirt of which swept into a train. The ensemble was finished with a tight-fitting, long-sleeved coatee with small upstanding collar. A dainty corded headdress caught the filmy silk net veil and pink orchids formed her bouquet.

Misses Barbara Hanforth, Leeds, and Edna Black, bride's cousin, the bridesmaids, wore picture gowns of chartreuse yellow duchess satin showing tight - fitting bodices with high swathed necklines and full skirts trimmed with cross folds. Green foliage formed their bouquets. Mr Harvey Cheshire, Derby, was best man. and ushers were Messrs lan Eadie, Charles Porter, lan Murray and Duncan M'Kerchar. The ceremony was by Rev. John S. Mutch, Glenbuchat, Aberdeenshire, and late of Newport. A reception was held in the Royal Hotel, Dundee.

Just found your post after a search for Donald Dearden Allsopp Whelan. Are you aware that his mother was killed by a bomb being dropped on a School house she was in at Long Marston Hertfordshire, She is on the CWGC site.

Civilian
WHELAN, RUTH

Died 30/01/1941

Aged 61

Civilian War Dead

of Long Marston Schoolhouse, Tring. Died at Long Marston Schoolhouse.

Update

Have just received wedding cert for Hilda married Frederick Thomas Birch, now know he was born in 1907, father Frederick and gives his reisdence at time of marriage Aston Clinton,Bucks.

Thanks to you Shirley

angela

:-D :-D :-D :-D

I sent you a PM cos thought you had given up !! Was as excited as if she was one of mine who was hiding lol.

Jeez Shirley I have only just read page 2, you are a miracle worker love you loads xxxxxxx

Mmmm I am still here, Shirley I bit the bullet and have just ordered that death cert, will come back and let you know if its my Sydney

Thanks Angela

could be. a Mar birth would most likely be reg April so would be June qtr
Name: Hilda Birch
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1910
Date of Registration: Jan 2000
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Register number: D85C
District and Subdistrict: 4691D
Entry number: 266

:-D :-D :-D :-D

would think Hilda would be known as Whelan
What about this one same area as Ruth died.

Name: Hilda A Whelan
Spouse Surname: Birch
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration district: Berkhampstead
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3175
Find Spouse:

TA DA!!!!


Name: Frederick T Birch
Spouse Surname: Allsopp-Whelan >>>>>>>>>>>>
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration district: Berkhampstead
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3175
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

There is a death for Hilda Dearden aged 1 in Lancashire, my thinking maybe as Ruth's family come from Blackburn.

Well folks I think we have exhausted this thread for now.

Thanks for all your help

Angela

See that probate on Ancetsry and Donald looks to be the executor. It may be worth getting a copy of the actual will as it may have other family details on it

Not something I had thought about, there are quite a few marriages for Hilda Dearden but none with the middle initials, nothing to make you think yes I will risk that cert.

Wonder then as Ruth left her estate to Donald whether Hilda had predeceased her.

lol :-D

Nice finds, Shirley..............you're more awake than I am!

Ahh that s the death i found -above :-D

maybe
Name: Ruth Whelan
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Berkhamsted
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 2690

Ruth died Tring Herts 1941, there is Probate details on Ancestry, she left her estate to Donald.

As to Sydney well Shirley have you found the death I have been looking for, for years, I know that he was in the Reading area in 1939 from documents from the National Archives. Ruth in 1941 said she was a widow but she could have just said that as Sid was bigamist more than once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was hoping to have found some later info on Hilda.......but no luck, as yet

Nor can I see deaths for Sidney & Ruth...........did they perhaps move abroad?

Was looking for Hilda!!



looks like Sydney death
Name: Sydney P Whelan
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 97
tried to find his birth but 1911 gives the clue!

WHELAN, Sidney Head Married M 24 1887 Electrical Engineer Calcutta India British subject by parentage
WHELAN, Ruth K Wife Married
2 years F 31 1880 Blackburn Lancs VIEW
WHELAN, Hilda A Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Horsham Sussex VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10126 Reference:
RG14PN10126 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED14 SN27

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Prittlewell Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Prittlewell

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