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I must go to bed now but I did add those ages anyway

good luck

jax

Thanks, Jax, goodnight :-)

Thank you for your good work everyone. i am sorry i had to go shopping so was not accross what was going on. it makes interesting reading so far.
regards
Max

Maxwell/Cherilyn

This record could relate to the above birth record as Croxley Green very close to Watford so not Martha.

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Edna Gladys Saunders
Name: Edna Gladys Saunders
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1918
Christening Date: 24 Feb 1918
Christening Place: Croxley Green, Hertfordshire, England
Father's name: William Percy Saunders
Mother's name: Alice Louisa

Vera

Ah yes Vera - that's these two I found the marriage for

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
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SAUNDERS William Percy Gower 11a 1345
WINCH Alice Louisa Gower 11a 1345

Well that's that!

Totally stuck again...does you friend have any other info at all, Maxwell?

I really doubt now about the other family on the passenger list, no Edna listed and another daughter named Grace accounted for. So probably futile following that any further...

We need more info! Is your friend SURE her mum was born nr London?

She may be best to order the marriage certificate. Deaths often have misinformation due to the informant being uncertain or plain incorrect. As you can already see how easy it is to head off down the wrong path!

From there, she will have definite leads. They are easily ordered online or use a transcription service like Joy Murrin, quite affordable.

Let us know what happens or if any new info comes to light!

with wife Martha at Cross Street - a Plumber

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954

Name: Alfred Edward Saunders
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Bankstown


with wife Martha -

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954

Name: Alfred Edward Saunders
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Bankstown


on his own -

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954

Name: Alfred Edward Saunders
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Bankstown


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954

Name: Alfred Edward Saunders
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Bankstown


Living at Cross Street - a Plumber

Hello everyone, I have some new information that should help.

Edna Grace Saunders parents were Alfred and Martha Saunders (Nee Hursey). They were married in 1912. Martha was born in 1878 in Wandsworth, Surrey. Her parents were George Hursey and Jane Chandler who married in 1912. Martha had brothers and sisters also nieces and nephews who were left in London.

Marriages Sep 1912
Saunders Alfred E Hursey Lambeth 1d 849
[spouse missing]

No Saunders-Hursey/Hersey/Hearsey births found on FreeBMD.

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
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Chandler Jane Wandsworth 1d 832
Hursey George Wandsworth 1d 832

Births Sep 1878
HURSEY Martha Wandsworth 1d 651

Finally!!! Found them in 1881 = as HUSSEY

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George HUSSEY Head M Male 40 Woking, Surrey, England Gardener 7/3
Jane HUSSEY Wife M Female 26 Horsell, Surrey, England
Annie HUSSEY Daur Female 10 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Scholar
Ada Mary HUSSEY Daur Female 8 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Scholar
Martha HUSSEY Daur Female 3 Wandsworth, Surrey, England
George HUSSEY Son Male 9 m Wandsworth, Surrey, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling 71 Chatham Rd
Census Place Battersea, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341149
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0646 / 69
Page Number 15


Births Mar 1841 (>99%)
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Hersey George Guildford 4 173


???
Deaths Jun 1912 (>99%)
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HURSEY George 69 Wandsworth 1d 513

This means George had a previous wife as eldest 2 born before his marriage to Jane in 1876. The 1871 Census might shed some light on this.

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Hursey George Wandsworth 1d 598


Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Hursey Ada Mary Wandsworth 1d 548


Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
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Hersey Annie Wandsworth 1d 580

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Possible for Alfred in 1881???

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Alfred SAUNDERS Head M Male 34 Lambeth, Surrey, England Solicitors Clerk
Mary SAUNDERS Wife M Female 40 Lambeth, Surrey, England
>>> Alfred E. SAUNDERS Son Male 10 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar
Florence M. SAUNDERS Daur Female 7 Camberwell, Surrey, England Scholar
Frederick A. SAUNDERS Son Male 5 Lambeth, Surrey, England
Catherine HARWORTH Servt U Female 21 Lambeth, Surrey, England Servt Domes
Amy HARWORTH Servt U Female 14 Rotherithe, Surrey, England Servt Domes
Ann PERIGAL Visitor W Female 62 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Annuitant
Humphrey C. JERVIS Visitor M Male 60 Ireland Baronet
Kate E. JERVIS Visitor M Female 46 Tours B S, France Lady
Alexander CALDER Visitor U Male 52 Scotland Retired Carpet Agent
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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Palace Rd
Census Place Penge, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341194
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0822 / 45
Page Number 8

or...

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John SAUNDERS Head M Male 43 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Dealer In Rope Locks Etc
Harriett SAUNDERS Wife M Female 39 Preston, Somerset, England
Ada L. SAUNDERS Daur Female 13 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Scholar
>>>Alfred E. SAUNDERS Son Male 10 Camberwell, Surrey, England Scholar
Maria F. SAUNDERS Daur Female 7 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Scholar
Walter F. SAUNDERS Son Male 4 Wandsworth, Surrey, England
Robert E. SAUNDERS Son Male 11 m Mitcham, Surrey, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling 42 Zulu Crescent
Census Place Battersea, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341149
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0644 / 27
Page Number 48

I just noticed you say "Martha had brothers and sisters also nieces and nephews who were left in London" - so she came to Australia as well?

Or do you mean Edna?

I think the electoral rolls Choccy found in Bankstown must be Edna's parents...

Possible death in NSW for Martha (Edna's mother) - but she would have been 90!

12886/1969 SAUNDERS MARTHA
father GEORGE
mother JANE
district BURWOOD

Tree on Anc**try has Grace Emily Saunders born in Cuba on 6th August 1919.

well that makes this interesting...

SAUNDERS EDWARD JAMES : Service Number - NX114598 : Date of birth - 08 Jun 1914 : Place of birth - BAYATE CUBA : Place of enlistment - GRETA NSW : Next of Kin - SAUNDERS ALFRED

Can anyone find George Hursey/Hersey b. 1841 Surrey and family in 1871 with first wife and daughter b. 1870???

nudge

Cant find any 1871 census with Annie dob 1870/71. This is a possible
first marriage for George.

Original has George a Labourer his father, George also a Labourer
Annie's father is Horatio deceased
Witnessed George ?Elson and Margaret ?Lyons

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Hearsey Name: George Hearsey
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Spouse Name: Annie Emery
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1869
Parish: St Anne
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: George Hendey
Spouse Father Name: Horatis Emery

Vera

Possibly George's baptism. Father, George, Labourer

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Hersey Name: George Hersey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1841
Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1841
Father's name: George Hersey
Mother's name: Mary Hersey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Woking St Peter

Vera