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Hi there,

I beleive I may have found my ancestor Martha Peers. I suspect she is the same Martha Peers who is buried in Nantwich, Cheshire on 31 May 1866. She was 83. From this age she was born c. 1783.

Can anyone spot her in the census please in 1841, 1851 and 1861.

I don't know much about her family so all info is much appreciated.

Her maiden name was Minshal and she married William Peers on 21st Sep. 1806 in Nantwich, three months before my ancestor, their daugher Elizabeth Peers was baptised on 8th Dec. 1806. I have her children's baptisms but nothing else.

Thanks,

Peter

1841 England Census
Name: Martha Peres [Looks like Peers on image]
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Nantwich
Hundred: Nantwich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Barker Street

Occupation: Washerwoman

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Nantwich
Piece: 117
Book: 2
Folio: 15
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Peres 60
Timothy Peres 25 - Shoemaker J[ourneyman]
Abraham Peres 20 - Shoemaker J[ourneyman]



1851 England Census
Name: Martha Peers
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Nantwich
Town: Nantwich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Barker Street

Occupation: Washerwoman

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Wybunbury
Piece: 2169
Folio: 593
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Peers 70
Abraham Peers 33 - son; shoemaker; Nantwich
Edward Peers 3 - grandson; Nantwich
Ann Jones 62 - Lodger; Laundress


1861 England Census
Name: Martha Peers
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Nantwich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Barker St

Occupation: Receiving Parochial Relief

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Nantwich
Piece: 2619
Folio: 66
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Peers 78
Abraham Peers 40 - County Court Bailiff
Edward Peers 4 [I think it is 11 rather than 4]- Errand Boy
Ann Jones 66 - Boarder; Receiving Parochial Relief

Thanks Ozibird. I do knw that Martha had a son named Ambraham baptised in Nantwich on 18th January 1816, so do you think this is the same family?

The ages do not quite match up.

Peter

I can't find Timothy again, perhaps ....

Deaths Mar 1845
PEERS Timothy Nantwich 19 154
OR

Deaths Sep 1849
Peers Timothy Nantwich 19 131

This looks like Edward Peers' baptism:


Edward Peers

England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000


residence: 14 Feb 1849 —, Nantwich, Cheshire, England
parents: /, Sarah Peers

record title: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
name: Edward Peers
event: Christening
event date: 14 Feb 1849
event place: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
mother: Sarah Peers
digital folder number: 4018984

BUT, I don't have a Sarah Peers in my tree. All of the children I have for William and Martha Peers are:

Elizabeth Peers (my ancestor, b. 1806)
Ann Peers b. 1809
Timothy Peers b. 1811
William Peers b. 1812
John Peers 1815-1815
Abraham Peers 1816-1893
Mary Peers b. 1818
John Peers b. 1821

What do people think?

I can't find Timothy again, perhaps ....

Deaths Mar 1845
PEERS Timothy Nantwich 19 154
OR

Deaths Sep 1849
Peers Timothy Nantwich 19 131

... bur 31 March 1845 aged 78
... bur 6 Aug 1849 aged 40

Definitely your family I would say with both Timothy and Abraham. Also only Martha Peers of that age in Nantwich registration district.


I've edited the censuses so that they are in chronological order in the same post.

Ozi

Aaaah, second one is your Timothy.

I'll look for older one on census.

Ozi

Hmmm, maybe the just were not very good at remembering birth days. You will noticed Timothy Peers seems to have died in 1849 but the age is not 'correct'.

Also, how have I missed Sarah Peers?

1841 England Census
Name: Timothy Pears
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Nantwich
Hundred: Nantwich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Love Lane

Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Nantwich
Piece: 117
Book: 2
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Timothy Pears 70

Brother-in-law to Martha do you think? A relative by marriage anyway.

Don't get too caught up on ages. They are not very accurate, and in 1841 ages were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years for those over 15.


Ozi

Perhaps Sarah was a widow of one of the sons when she gave birth to Edward.


Are those dates for the children birth dates or baptism?

Ozi

???? Only 3 years after John.

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sarah Peers
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Jan 1824
baptism/christening place: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
father's name: William Peers
mother's name: Martha Peers

Hi Ozibird, yeah I had thought Sarah could be a widow but I don't know.

The birth dates of the children are baptism dates.

Also, these baptisms are taken for Cheshire on the IGI on a search from 1760-1800:


2. MARTHA MINSHULL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 NOV 1780 Nantwich, Cheshire, England
3. MARTHA MINSHULL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JAN 1781 Saint Chad,Over, , Cheshire, England
4. MARTHA MINSHALL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 AUG 1784 Whitegate, Cheshire, England

There are another two ... one in 1766 and one in 1798. The one in Nantwich seems probable but as the other two are in the local area I am cautious to say the baptism in 1780 is definitley the one related to me.

Oh wow, I have never seen the 1824 baptism!

Thank you for checking for me. I did a search of the family using the batch index sometime ago. Nothing like human error (although at which end of the process this was made, I am not sure). Maybe I just missed her or perhaps more records were added later.

Now, my research shows that William Peers died about 12 Sep. 1823 in Nantwich and he was 49, so perhaps this is why there was some difficulty with the baptism?

At a guess, I would say your Martha is the 1870 baptism. That fits with her most consistent age, and she's recorded as being born in Nantwich itself.


Ozi

1871 England Census
Name: Edward Peers
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Peers
Gender: Male
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Nantwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Nantwich
Town: Nantwich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Hospital St

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Nantwich
Piece: 3713
Folio: 131
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Peers 20 - Cordwainer
Mary J Peers 19 - Seamstress; Nantwich



1881 England Census
Name: Edward Peers
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Peers
Gender: Male
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Nantwich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 92 Hospital St

Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Cordwainer Shoemaker <<<<<<<

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Nantwich
Piece: 3548
Folio: 29
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Peers 32
Mary Jane Peers 26
William Peers 4
Elizabeth Peers 2
Edward Peers

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
Galley William Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view
Hilditch Ann Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view
Hulse Mary Jane Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view
PEERS Edward Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view

Thanks Ozibird, all of this help is much appreciated. I obviously have a lot of new leads to work!

????

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Peers
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Servant
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Broughton
Town: Broughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 70 Kew Place

Occupation: House servant [hard work with all that lot!]

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Piece: 2222
Folio: 194
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
John Whitlow 51 - tea and coffee dealer
Sarah Whitlow 50
Mary Whitlow 26
Elizabeth Whitlow 24
Lucy Whitlow 22
Esther Whitlow 20
Charles H Whitlow 16
Samuel Whitlow 15
Hannah Whitlow 10
John Whitlow 8
Sarah Peers 25
Mary M Kanna 39

Phew I bet that was hard work! Hmmm, I suppose that must be her!