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Don't worry - it's often worth checking these things - you never know what went on!

John Collins on above baptism is a Labourer.

Try looking on freebmd for Marian's death

No, Elizabeth Ann's father is just listed as deceased.

For the baptism, John is a labourer and there are two other children on the same day - Charles and John??

That's a shame. I don't know of any brothers so I can't tie that up yet, but it might come in useful in the future.

Are there any children born to Alfred and Marian?

Have to keep in mind that Ann Elizabeth Collins might not be Elizabeth Ann Collins?

I just saw the reference to Tower Hamlets as a possible link?

Also I've found a baptism for Marian Green on IGI in 1823. Please could you have a look to see what her father's profession is listed as?

Yes, the baptism is one to remember and if other info supports it then we can start to believe it more.

Name: Marian Green
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1823
Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1823
Father's name: John Green
Mother's name: Louisa Green
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth

John Green is a farmer

Not quite a gentleman then.

I've tried looking on the census for Elizabeth but as I don't know when her father John died I don't know whether he ought to be on there with her or not. Elizabeth Collins seems to be a very popular name in London unfortunately!

Just to clarify John Humphrey is listed as a chaser on both marriages, and Alfred Thomas is listed as an engineer on both?

Going back to Tower Hamlets reference there is this family in 1841 census???

COLLINS, John M 55 1786
COLLINS, Sarah F 45 1796
COLLINS, Eliza F 20 1821
COLLINS, Hannah F 20 1821
COLLINS, John M 15 1826
COLLINS, Sarah F 15 1826
COLLINS, Elizabeth F 10 1831
COLLINS, Susannah F 8 1833
COLLINS, Rachael F 5 1836

RG number: HO107 Piece: 698 Book/Folio: 10/24 Page: 4
Registration District: Hackney Sub District: Hackney
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Hackney Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: Lea Road Clapton, Hackney, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex



I will check those marriages for you again.

That could well be a possibility.

Just to add to the confusion, Alfred's marriage to Marian was definitely his first wasn't it. He is listed as a bachelor?

Alfred is an Engineer on both marriages.

John Humphrey is listed as a Chaser (deceased) on the marriage to Marion Green.
John Green is listed as a Gentleman (deceased).

John Humphrey is listed as only deceased on the marriage to Elizabeth Ann Collins.
John Collins is listed as only deceased.

Yes, he was a bachelor when he married Marian.

Just a thought, have you tried Search Trees on this site? There are 3 other members who have Alfred Munt (1828) in their trees.

You could contact them to see if you have a connection?

1841 census???

MUNT, John M 50 1791 Hertfordshire
MUNT, Ann F 50 1791 Hertfordshire
MUNT, John M 15 1826 Hertfordshire
MUNT, Thomas M 15 1826 Hertfordshire
MUNT, George M 13 1828 Hertfordshire
MUNT, Alfred M 10 1831 Hertfordshire
MUNT, Eliza F 7 1834 Hertfordshire
MUNT, Hannah F 2 1839 Hertfordshire

RG number: HO107 Piece: 435 Book/Folio: 2/6 Page: 6
Registration District: Ware Sub District: Ware
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Thundridge Municipal Borough:
Address: Wade's Mill, Thundridge County: Hertfordshire


Note:
In the 1841 Census a policy of rounding down ages was in place.

* As such people aged:
* 15-19 were recorded as 15;
* 20-24 were recorded as 20;
* 25-29 were recorded as 25;
* 30-34 were recorded as 30;
* 35-39 were recorded as 35;

I wonder if there is a connection?

Henry Humphrey Munt

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


birth: 1764
residence: 1764 —Westminster, London, England
parents: John Munt, Susanna

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Henry Humphrey Munt
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1764
baptism/christening place: ST. JAMES, WESTMINSTER, MIDDLESEX, ENGLAND
birth date: 1764
father's name: John Munt
mother's name: Susanna
indexing project (batch) number: C13551-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1042308